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[YankeeDuchess]

@Ghazzu

I suspect you are asking the wrong persona that particular question.

By posting menus and recipes, and cutting back on the insults temporarily.

[GreenWithEnvy]

@YankeeDuchess

I think you were taunting her, not complimenting her, duh.

Bless your heart…this response of mine was actually responding to YOU. (Post #973 since you like numbers.)

Uber is here…back in a few hours!! Try to keep the thread open if you can.

[trubandloki]

My opinion (it is only my opinion, no facts or anything) is that some people are posting just so they can get the thread closed. I can think of no other reason for their posts.

I am glad I kept reading though, I learned something I had not learned before.

[FatDinah]

My prediction is that there will be no trial. MB lawyers and the prosecutor will agree to a guilty plea for a lesser charge. My expectation would be an assault charge of some degree with a weapons charge, sentences to run consecutive.
The terms of a sentence will take into account evidence of MB’s state of mind with a report from a court appointed psychiatrist, a report on his previous history, an analysis of the likelihood of him repeating the crime.
I expect there will be the opportunity for witnesses to speak on his behalf.
LK and RG will be given the chance to make victim statements as to the harm they suffered.
The judge will take all that into consideration. I would expect a sentence more than the minimum but with leniency.
Now, the real question … who’s got a really flavorful recipe for gingerbread cake?

[YankeeDuchess]

@GreenWithEnvy

Where are you getting this specific information? I don’t understand how you suddenly know so much background on these phone calls. (These are all questions you’ve asked many of us in a variety of words…so now, my turn to ask you. We aren’t supposed to make “assumptions”, right?)

I said that what I could make out on the call, was MB saying that some clients were refusing to sign documents as the reason he was calling 911.

The call has been posted up thread. Not an assumption.

[YankeeDuchess]

@FatDinah

My prediction is that there will be no trial. MB lawyers and the prosecutor will agree to a guilty plea for a lesser charge. My expectation would be an assault charge of some degree with a weapons charge, sentences to run consecutive.
The terms of a sentence will take into account evidence of MB’s state of mind with a report from a court appointed psychiatrist, a report on his previous history, an analysis of the likelihood of him repeating the crime.
I expect there will be the opportunity for witnesses to speak on his behalf.
LK and RG will be given the chance to make victim statements as to the harm they suffered.
The judge will take all that into consideration. I would expect a sentence more than the minimum but with leniency.
Now, the real question … who’s got a really flavorful recipe for gingerbread cake?

IF there is evidence of premeditation, and given that the physical “assault” involved two shots to the center left of the torso at point blank, and a shot aimed at the head, I can see why MB would plead to an assault charge if he could, but why would the prosecution agree?

[x-halt-salute]

@FatDinah

My prediction is that there will be no trial. MB lawyers and the prosecutor will agree to a guilty plea for a lesser charge. My expectation would be an assault charge of some degree with a weapons charge, sentences to run consecutive.
The terms of a sentence will take into account evidence of MB’s state of mind with a report from a court appointed psychiatrist, a report on his previous history, an analysis of the likelihood of him repeating the crime.
I expect there will be the opportunity for witnesses to speak on his behalf.
LK and RG will be given the chance to make victim statements as to the harm they suffered.
The judge will take all that into consideration. I would expect a sentence more than the minimum but with leniency.
Now, the real question … who’s got a really flavorful recipe for gingerbread cake?

Grammercy Tavern’s. It’s the best. Fold the flour in gently so as not to introduce so much air that it sinks, and grease/flour your pan more than you think you need to.

[YankeeDuchess]

@GiveEmEl

I don’t understand why everyone assumes people have multiple accounts. As you mentioned earlier, people have anonymity here…why would anyone need more than one account? And since you have clearly stated who you are, you would have no need of another account.

My apologies to GreenWithEnvy. It was GiveEmEl, who after popping up with a join date of Dec 21, innocently asked on Dec 24 why anyone would create an alter.

I wish to speculate that GiveEmEl and GreenWithEnvy are off skiing together.

[FatDinah]

Because that’s what law enforcement/prosecutors do to clear a case without the cost and uncertainty of a trial.
I don’t think LK would make a sympathetic victim. A defense attorney could easily shift the jury’s attention to her, much like the lawyers did to the mother in the Michael Jackson child abuse case or what OJ’s legal team did to the police officer.
A prosecutor might legitimately worry about LK alienating jurors.

[GiveEmEl]

@YankeeDuchess

He did not say she would not pay him. At the beginning of one of the 911 calls, it is somewhat muddled, but to the extent that I could make it out, his stated reason for calling 911 was that a client or clients were refusing to sign a document.

She has posted here, after the fact, that MB was trying to get her to pay more than the previously agreed rates,

I find it EXTREMELY likely a trainer would raise rates on an existing client, especially if the trainer understands that it is expensive and a hassle for the client to move. I’ve been there, as the exploited client. I stayed and paid for a while, then left.

But surely you have all had trainers raise rates or come up with creative invoices. I think she may have been not backing down on the attempted extortion (figurative use of extortion here), while not fully believing he would shoot her. Regardless of how tense the situation was, I STILL find it hard to believe he shot her.

Thank you for the clarification, I must have missed that posting from LK and/or didn’t remember the phone calls correctly. Truthfully haven’t listened to them since the day they were released.

[La-LaPopRider]

@LiberalSnowflake

Just when I thought this thread couldn’t get any stranger, someone comes along and raises the ante. Good grief.

Really? I thought it was behind strange from minute 1. Yet, you quote ME to point out “strangeness?” Simply put, any words I put in quotations were direct slinging of insults by some of the worst offenders, aimed at me. Not to mention the intentional twisting of words, lack of accountability for spewing misinformation, disinformation, half truths & outright lies.

You really shouldn’t read too much into my post about Joanne’s “cold wine,” & crystal wine glasses. It was merely a projected, mirror image comment of ridiculousness- which would have been a reply to me, (or, similar) had I written the same exact post Joanne created. It really shouldn’t be construed as anything more, or, anything less.

[GiveEmEl]

@YankeeDuchess

Christ. When you are assaulted/shot, the body pumps out adrenaline. It is not that unusual for someone mortally shot to go after their attacker on the adrenaline surge before collapsing and dying. But perhaps you meant it as a compliment to her.

It was intended as a (admittedly weird) compliment. I imagine being shot and having the wherewithal to fight back is somewhat rare.

[YankeeDuchess]

@smoofox

@YankeeDuchess - your sneering and need to take over this thread and even police it is a bit puzzling. Most heated, loooonnng threads eventually stray off topic and become about recipes, pets or what have you. It is not a conspiracy of any kind - it just happens.

Ah yes - the rest of us are mere imbeciles next to your Holmesian ability to cleverly deduce everything about everything. You seem to suggest that you have info no one else has. I am not sure if that is genuine or BS… but your overbearing tactics here make even me - a non-cook - want to delve into recipes. Mainly my mom’s old angel food pie… :yes:

I provide the information behind my assertions. E.g. the 911 call, a direct statement by LK, etc.

I am criticizing people like
@MorgsnSercu for throwing out false allegations, without documenting the basis for the claim, even when asked directly by the target of the false claim. It is clear at this point that the allegation of@MorganSercu
is false, in part because others dredged up the other posts which on which it was based and in part because I was obnoxious enough to pursue it.

[YankeeDuchess]

@GiveEmEl

That is some genuine superhero shit. I’ve never been shot but imagine I’d be on the ground flopping like a fish.

News flash: GiveEmEl says this comment was intended as a compliment to LK.

[GiveEmEl]

@YankeeDuchess

My working hypothesis is GreenWithEnvy and GiveEmEl are the same person, who is not SW.

Evidence is their posting in response to each other’s (their own) posts, similar excellent command of the English language, and most of all that GreenWithEnvy so innocently asked, well why would anyone create an alter?

Not that it matters. It’s just funny. And yes, I have a really low bar for what passes as amusement at this point.

I’m an alt of GreenWithEnvy because we both have above average grammar skills? Who knew doing well in English classes meant I would be so suspicious. I asked why anyone would create an alt, not GreenWithEnvy. I have responded to MANY people’s posts, am I their alt too? Am I your alt? Are we all really the same person?

I’m not sure what your obsession with alts is, and you are welcome to believe what you choose, but perhaps keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. 🙄

[GiveEmEl]

@YankeeDuchess

News flash: GiveEmEl says this comment was intended as a compliment to LK.

You seem to have a weird fixation on me. While I’m flattered, I find it rather unwarranted.

[YankeeDuchess]

@FatDinah

Because that’s what law enforcement/prosecutors do to clear a case without the cost and uncertainty of a trial.
I don’t think LK would make a sympathetic victim. A defense attorney could easily shift the jury’s attention to her, much like the lawyers did to the mother in the Michael Jackson child abuse case or what OJ’s legal team did to the police officer.
A prosecutor might legitimately worry about LK alienating jurors.

And there we have it. I think you weren’t supposed to say that.

[GiveEmEl]

@La-LaPopRider

You imagine that, bc it’s what we see in every single movie - except ones which show the person being shot at, magically missing being shot in highly choreographed action scenes.

IRL - shock, adrenaline & physical fitness play a huge role. It takes between 5-7 minutes for a lung to collapse. Longer to bleed to death. I did wonder how it was possible I was still standing … I would have thought he’d mistakenly loaded the gun with blanks - if not for the fact I was uncontrollably bleeding. I did assume I’d die. But, while I was still breathing, I was going to use every single ounce of strength I had left to help Rob restrain MB. Rob is 5’8 to MBs 6’4. Hearing “Michael!!! Stop MOVING,” made me think rob was losing his hold. If Rob wanted, he could’ve choked out MB to the point of being completely unconscious. That would’ve been easier. But, he wanted him conscious. At least partly. On the other hand, I knew the gun was still in MBs hand underneath them. This is why my MAIN concern was to do whatever possible to make sure he couldn’t fire it again.

What are you implying by saying “that’s some genuine superhero shit- if I were shot, I imagine I’d be flopping around on the ground like a fish?” If it’s a compliment- thanks! If it’s an insinuation I wasn’t shot in the exact manner I described- no thanks.

No, I genuinely believe it was some superhero action you did. It was admittedly a poorly worded and extremely strange compliment, but it was intended as such.

[YankeeDuchess]

@GiveEmEl

I’m an alt of GreenWithEnvy because we both have above average grammar skills? Who knew doing well in English classes meant I would be so suspicious. I asked why anyone would create an alt, not GreenWithEnvy. I have responded to MANY people’s posts, am I their alt too? Am I your alt? Are we all really the same person?

I’m not sure what your obsession with alts is, and you are welcome to believe what you choose, but perhaps keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. 🙄

It’s not that you have above average grammar. It’s that your “voice” and writing style is similar. A writing style, including correctness of grammar and punctuation, terse vs verbose, use of emojis, is somewhat like fingerprints.

That’s why I was offended, frankly, that someone thought I was an alter for LK. I think my writing style is much different from hers.

[YankeeDuchess]

@GiveEmEl

No, I genuinely believe it was some superhero action you did. It was admittedly a poorly worded and extremely strange compliment, but it was intended as such.

I will henceforth endeavor to believe that all insults lobbed at me are “extremely strange compliment[s]”.