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I swear, Chrome is going to “speak” to one of these crazies and they are going to try to do something really, really bad to the Martins. Much worse than dancing around Barbaro’s statue at midnight, BTW. I think they have crossed that fine line into insane and potentially dangerous at this point.
Make the FOBs seem soooo tame in comparison.[/QUOTE]
I’m slowly making my way through this thread and maybe this has been answered but I’m sorry what? Link? Explanation?
Did anyone see who the page likes on FB? One of the pages is Trump for pres. That explains a lot. I still laugh at one of the comments made about Zenyatta. All these Zenny fans thought it was awesome the first time she ever had seen snow. Hello…she’s a KY bred so it wasn’t the first time she ever had seen snow. C.C. might be out of here before we get the cold weather and if not I’m sure we’ll hear about how cruel it is for him to be out in the snow all hairy and whatnot.
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I’m slowly making my way through this thread and maybe this has been answered but I’m sorry what? Link? Explanation?[/QUOTE]
Laurerace probably can fill in more than me, but this was in reference to Martita, who as far as I can tell is an interpretative danceperson from NYC who was a very involved FOB and a friend of Ms. Jackson. She danced both at New Bolton for Dr. Richardson and at Pimlico. She also danced around the statue of Barbaro at Churchill Downs when it was unveiled swathed in tulle. The video had its brief moment of fame. She is still an involved FOB, but too smart to be a Chromie from BCH. “Eccentric” would be a good description of her.
P.S. She also posts in a sort of semi-blank verse form that is also bizarre and hard to read. She is still active on ABR.
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I’m slowly making my way through this thread and maybe this has been answered but I’m sorry what? Link? Explanation?[/QUOTE]
For more on Martita, I really like this article from ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=derby
(hopefully that link works! But honestly I just thought Martita was a crazy person until I read that. I think she’s just an artistic gentle soul. I don’t understand it, exactly, but she’s an interesting and very kind person)
My biggest issue with FOBs was the rabid fervor they had for rescue that led to a lot of scamming, taking advantage, hoarding, etc.
I hadn’t heard of the rescue side of the FOB story. After reading that ESPN story I’m curious to hear more about it. How were they linking rescue to Barbaro, were the scams aimed at rescuing thoroughbreds?
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I hadn’t heard of the rescue side of the FOB story. After reading that ESPN story I’m curious to hear more about it. How were they linking rescue to Barbaro, were the scams aimed at rescuing thoroughbreds?[/QUOTE]
This would probably take its own thread…
But in a nutshell, the FOBs all posted (and still post today) on Alex Brown’s racing forum (a delphi-forum). Within the forum there’s a section for rescue issues, and many “rescues” (I’m using the term loosely) cottoned on to all the fundraising going on over there and took advantage of the well meaning FOBs.
There were frequent “the truck is coming!” style rescues where everyone would pool money and send the horse to some third party, lots of donation drives, etc. Quite a number of the “rescues” there were private individuals who quickly got in over their heads. Several others were out and out frauds, taking in large amounts of money, not being clear about how it was spent, lying to the FOB donors, even faking names.
Several of those “rescues” actually ended up as animal control cases themselves. But the moderator of the forum, and the FOBs themselves, would get very upset if you questioned anything or tried to point out discrepancies.
One of those rescues ended up being a big case in WV, some 50 odd horses on the property, skeletons and bodies found, several horses on the edge of death. Several of us rang the “alarm bells” among the FOBs on multiple occasions and they wouldn’t hear of it until Animal Control finally got involved. She took in thousands of dollars in donations from FOBs, at one point to supposedly get surgery for one specific horse who was skin and bones a few months later.
I haven’t paid attention over there in years, so have no idea how it’s going now.
Thanks for the information Caffeinated, I might just take a look myself out of curiosity. This reminds me of all the rescues tied to kill buyers and the frantic last minute fundraising that occurs. I bet there are some old posts I can look up for more info so that I don’t derail this particular thread. But if Chrome ever went the way of Barbaro (I certainly hope not!) I could see the BCHers going down a similar path.
The Chromies are too self-centered and selfish to ever branch off from their villain, Martin.
As for ABR, I’ll plead guilty to being all too gullible once upon a time. Christy got a lot of early business, as well as a “rescuer” who would take a bunch of the bailed horses from her. She’s the one who dropped dead and then it turned out that her name was somewhat different (Tee?) and she had a huge string of prior busts, and it turned out being a huge mess. Back in those days the COTH forums were composed of villains who all believed in slaughter.
Those days are long gone. However, the forum still exists in some form or another, but not many people are left. Martita is still a member, however. I was interested in finding out that a great many of the posters on the current ABR condemn the BCH crowd–far too radical and ignorant for them.
Taylor Made posted an update on him today. IMO he looks pretty fabulous
https://www.facebook.com/taylormadeadvantage/photos/a.600042903364834.1073741830.105549292814200/896259670409821/?type=1&theater
Huh. My take was “Wow, what a nut job.” (And it’s driving me nuts trying to find out where she actually trained as a dancer before she founded a company.) She sounds like Martha Graham on crack.
Did anyone hear AP referred to as “America’s Horse” in the Haskell? I predict some anger from BCH. “AP is NOT America’s Horse! America’s Horse is CHROME, The Most Famous Horse In The World!!! People are so stupid!!11!”
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Did anyone hear AP referred to as “America’s Horse” in the Haskell? I predict some anger from BCH. “AP is NOT America’s Horse! America’s Horse is CHROME, The Most Famous Horse In The World!!! People are so stupid!!11!”[/QUOTE]
Haha, I heard that! And I’m just sure the Chromies are going to have a collective aneurysm.
I think they missed that… they are far too upset about Baffert saying - “the last thing we want to do is embarrass the horse” and saying CC deserved that. Cue more clueless rants…
Poor Chrome ran his Heart out & proved he was a Champion. And that Idoit Ass Martin belittled Chrome!! And the Horse did not deserve to suffer like that!! And Really a Good TB trainer wouldn’t have get training a horse that was detoriatating that Bad & losing all that weight. Shame on Rae Guest!!! If he’s such a well respected Trainer he sure didn’t look out for the Best interest of a True Champion like Chrome & let a owner that don’t know squat about a Race Horse tell you want to do!! I never did that!
TY… my sentiments completely about Rae Guest. CC was not treated right in england and i stand strong about that… the facts do not lie. Then PM had him shipped back in a metal box…how cruel… then lied to the Coburns to get them to sell…God forbid…what is next?
So we are back to saying Rae Guest and England sucks and were cruel to Chrome - and the stupid “metal Box” that all horses are shipped overseas and back in… unfreakingbelievable.
Smoofox beat me to it. Somehow in my world the only embarrassment to Chrome has been the rants from the Coburns, BCH, and to a lesser extent, the Shermans. Other than that, I would think that he’s had quite an easy year. Won 2 million by running second in Dubai, had time off and what I would think was a generous and happy training schedule in England.
From what I gather, he had a good long 1 mile warm up at the walk to the gallops, good conditioning on the hills and gallops, then a nice cool-down walk back. Probably no extra drugs or supplements, just hay, oats, water. The bruise to the foot was treated appropriately, as was the flight back to the USA. Training was stopped immediately when the bone bruise was found, then sent off to Kentucky for R & R.
Nothing to suggest that anybody ran the legs off him or mistreated him in any way. If he had stayed in the USA he probably would have had a far more rigorous schedule (minus 2 million from Dubai) with far less out-of-the-stall time–and far more chance of injury.
Oh, well. Guess they no longer have anything concrete (in their minds, at least) to complain about. Additionally, if Martin was in it only for the money, I would venture that he would have sold Chrome to the Japanese, who I gather had the highest offers on the table for him. Instead, he chose Taylor Made for probably a much lower price.
I am thinking they are thinking CC deserved a first class seat that reclines with footrests, champagne and a warm towel for his face before landing…
These guys are just priceless…
I agree- do they not look at the pictures of AP in his “metal box” on the plane?:eek:
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I agree- do they not look at the pictures of AP in his “metal box” on the plane?:eek:[/QUOTE]
A friend on FB just shared a really cute video from one of the shipping companies of AP being loaded on the plane today. In a “metal box”! :eek:
:lol:
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A friend on FB just shared a really cute video from one of the shipping companies of AP being loaded on the plane today. In a “metal box”! :eek:
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Butbutbut…but Chrome is DIFFERENT! He’s a human in a horse’s body! He’s more speshul…
Butbutbut…but Chrome is DIFFERENT! He’s a human in a horse’s body! He’s more speshul…
Like that awful photo on their page featuring who I think is GaWaNi Pony Boy?
I still think it’s ridiculous that they claim Coburn was bullied into selling. How much could he do to ensure Chrome’s safety? He wasn’t majority owner. If he was really interested in doing ensuring Chrome’s safety, he wouldn’t have cut and run, either. He took the money when he knew Chrome was headed to a good place. I think he’s a sellout who ran his mouth and who was all bark, no bite, but he did make sure Chrome was headed somewhere that would be good to him.
I ‘liked’ the facebook page just to see what you all are talking about. These people truly are nuts. Latest update is about the Cobourns selling their shares. How could they? They are Chrome’s ‘family’. OMG!
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