Originally posted by anthem35:
Each time, upon hearing the I train with Paul, the response was the same.
“Good Man, Great trainer. We will be happy to see him back at the ring”.
Well lets hope they were just being polite.
As far as the old just “business as usual” excuse, the talented trainer in a tough business, etc. etc., well, please.
Face it, there is no excuse. Or, if mistaken, WE HAVE NOT HEARD IT YET!
The Mafia just are doing business as usual too.
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Why do your posts sound so much like Hildegaard Frostbite who happens to be managed by Mason Phelps?
You all do know that Mason Phelps is Hildegaard Frostbite, right?
That is the great thing about our country. All sides can speak their minds, agree or disagree. It will be up to the hearing committee, with the petition at least they know people are paying attention to what is going on in the industry. If I was on the committee and no one said a thing either way I would wonder if people are paying attention.
Originally posted by Jumphigh83:
Actually it would be the “hunting” crowd…the “hunter” crowd would be right here…H/J…and we are not boring! Hunters and hunting are dipolar IS THIS A WORD?
nowadays…
An aside–I for one lament the lumping of the show jumpers in with the hunters under the new USEF. I had hoped that an international equestrian sport [showjumping] could have at least had its own organization–but alas, follow the money $$$$.
So therefore, thanks, Anthem. Your post may have helped us prevent further reinstatements.
Originally posted by Jodes, Aefvue Farms Certified Bartender:
You can defend him all day long, but it’s you then who has to put your head on the pillow at night knowing you come on here and defend a known horse killer.
I sleep well at night, thanks. And it’s people like yourself that know him ONLY as a “horse killer.” You can forgive, but no one is asking you to forget. Unless you’re so below forgiveness that you’re going to harbor hostility towards everyone who makes a publicly exposed mistake.
Originally posted by harryjohnson Aefvue Senior Gardens:
I myself have no interest in his finances, books, or business records. One can be certain that everything is to the letter of the law, and certainly no one’s business other than his own.
As always, Harry…Thank You.
Schyler, I’m with you. But not because of PV’s (Who I know by reputation only) actions of the past, but because what I see here amounts to a veiled attempt to influence the Hearing Committee, and deny PV his due process. Courts of law try to prevent “mob influence” by giving high profile defe
after further review… dawg… i agree…
That sounds right to me, Snowy! 
I hope so. The last thing anyone needs is a vet who testifies against them to save his own bacon.
Originally posted by ise@ssl:
You know Boberry - You hit it right on the head.
If this man is - according to those who work with him - the best! At what if he’s not violating his suspension? If those being coached by him, or taking instruction from him are competing - it appears they are violating the rules.
It’s not complicated -it’s pretty darn clear.
Whats clear is that Paul can do whatever he chooses to do…He is free to train anyone he chooses to on his private property.
I am free to train with whomever I choose.
I am free to show if I choose.
It is in my opinion that Paul is the best trainer that I can have at this point in my riding career.
What works for me doesnt have to work for you.
But neither he, nor I, are breaking any rules whatsoever.
I don’t think he would kill a horse that way again. But how many are you allowed to kill and still be part of an organization where ethics, sportsmanship and care/concern for your equine partner are what matters? I would question whether someone who has the mindset that allowed them to have a horse killed like that, would always make decisions that keep the horse’s best interest at heart.
Originally posted by Limerick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by big dawg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by Limerick:
My husband commented to me this morning as I sent off the cheque for my horse’s insurance policy that I probably have PV et al to thank for high insurance prices. That may be true. I know it’s an absolute truth, however, that insurance companies now go to extremes to ensure that proper procedures are taken when a horse needs to be euthanized in case of insurance fraud.
ditto workers comp fraud, and car accident fraud, etc. Same problem—why do you think that insuring an animal is different than insuring a boat or plane for instance? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What are you going on about now??
Are you stupid and can’t read, or just a public school education? Insurance fraud happens in all kinds of insured situations–I guess if you have nothing serious to add to the topic, then resort to personal snide remarks about the person contributing to the discussion.
Just an aside…“Dawg” got kicked out of the dictionary of slang! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What are you talking about? I’ve had horses put down before. So have most people.
Edited to say that the ones I had put down didn’t die as tragically as the ones I found ‘good’ homes for. The do-gooders were the ones who starved, mistreated and resold (with new birthdays) the horses they got from me.
I want to take the opportunity to remind you all that I will ship braceletss tomorrow. So please send any orders tonight and tomorrow morning.[B]
Call me crazy but I am thinking that this greenie may be very close to the situation currently being discussed…
Maybe the committee can Chanda. By not allowing something of this nature ever to occur again. You aren’t police we know that. But if someone who commits the unthinkable is allowed to come back, it doesn’t bode well for an organization which in its forward, states horse welfare is paramont. It does not give credence to them or what they stand for.
I agree that we should leave the other horse off.
Erin- do you know if there were any transcripts of the proceedings (any of them) made public?
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