The "NO REINSTATEMENT" thread.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Perfect Pony:

Funny that, we could say the same thing about you? It appears you joined 2 days ago only to defend PV - who exactly are YOU?

First I don’t think it’s any of your business who I am. But since you choose to attack me and my reasons for joining I will respond.

I had been a member on these forums previously but forgot all my information as I had my laptop stolen when my car was broken into. The authorities told me to create all new screen names passwords etc on anything that was on my computer since identity theft is a big issus. SO, no I did not just join to defend PV and how dare you question me and my intentions on this forum. I am doing what everyone else does on this forum, which is express an opinion which I, as are you are entitled to, regardless if we agree or disagree.

I also am an active member in the H/J community and have been for over 20 years. SO sorry I haven’t been able to post over 3000 times like you have.

WA-

when will this go to the “powers to be”?

Thanks,

I am confused. Is the fact that he is “sorry” supposed to erase the fact that he is guilty???

Originally posted by War Admiral:
Yes, ABSOLUTELY…So please, DO sign, and please pass the link on to anyone you may know both in Canada and overseas.

Thank you!

Linked to EMG - the Canadian counterpart for COTH. Let’s hope we can make a difference.

“less ‘criticism’” of what?
and “acknowledgement” of what?

Actually, I do disagree, the organization can choose what they want to do with the opinion of the petitioners, it is not a vote, per se.

Originally posted by SmileGee:
I want to read more about this so I am sure to get all of the facts. What is the name of the book written about it (referred to in an earlier post)? Where can I find out more information?
You could start here
Excerpt from Hot Blood

Originally posted by hiddenlake:
I should clarify that I know Dr. Hugi was practicing as of three or four years ago; I don’t know if his license was pulled for a time before that.

I recall seeing his name on a list of animal chiropractors recently, just went back and found it. If you scroll down to ILL area you’ll find him, where he’s listed as a DVM.

http://handicappedpets.com/animalchiro.htm

You’ll also find a number of results if you google his name, where he’s quoted quit a bit on various pet sites.

A BIG thank you to those that set up the Cafe Press stuff. I’m going to get some things for sure.

But I have to admit I’m still chuckling about the no reinstatement thongs…

Meadowlark, according to the USEF, PV does in fact still own Aces Wild Farm in RI. It is in good standing and listed as active.

I don’t have time to read the thread, so my apologies in advance for repetition - if I am doing so…
Valliere and Ward make more money now, on suspension, than they EVER did before. They can train off grounds, watch videos of rounds and critique back in the comfort of their living rooms. Their horse sales are world famous!
GLL, Jr (Lindemann) doesn’t NEED more money (every time you buy one of them there CELLULAR phones you’re paying little Georgie…).
Yes, ban them for life, but sadly it won’t affect them at all. Busine$$ as usual.

Okay, confession time. Longtime lurker who has been to maybe three tiny shows max in her lifetime and is not a member of the USEF, so please take the following words as the view of a not very informed outsider.

Moving beyond the atrocities of the incident,

How must he have felt, letting down friends, family, clients, kids…???

Why oh why did I have to get caught? ducks for cover

Sorry, sorry!

But seriously…

I’m reasonably sure that the killing was a well-thought out plan of action, designed to minimize any and all possible “problems” associated with such an endeavor-using a middleman and electrocution, etc. Those actions did just not seem the work of a man broken with indecision and guilt over a difficult choice, but a business decision to minimize loss. Or possibly embarrassment. I really don’t know, and I’ve never met him or actually even heard of Mr. Valliere before the No Reinstatement threads. This is just how it’s appearing to me.

I’m sure he’s a perfectly nice person when under parole, but it takes a bit of cool, calculating temperament to even think about doing anything close to what he did, which leads me to wonder if, indeed, he feels remorse for killing a horse under his care or if the remorse is for getting caught. The regret itself seems genuine, but his quotes personally come across as “I’ve done charity, I’ve expressed remorse, ergo I am entitled to join the USEF "

[QUOTE] “I’ve helped a lot of different animal charities,” Valliere said. “I donated all of my lesson money to the animals left behind after 9/11. I’ve donated a lot to the ASPCA and to rescuing horses in distress. A lot of people just don’t know what I’ve done. Mason was kind enough to ask me to judge. There were only a handful of people [dissenting] ”” enough to stir up a problem. Some people just won’t let go." [/QUOTE ]

Again, he probably didn’t just wake up one day an Evil Horse Killer â„¢ after a life of good deeds, but had a long and disreputable spiral downward to reach that point. Yes, this is nothing but speculation on my part based on admittedly limited experience. However, nothing has really convinced me that if a similar situation comes up again, he won’t make another wrong decision.

Ok, long rant over. This is my view of the subject, and when I discussed it with non-horsey folks, they had similar opinions on the situation. Am I missing something?

Believe she did Race. Unless while living in Florida she has gained it back. Think there is a site where you can check DVM’s licensing. It may be on the State of Florida’s web site.

It most certainly is not true that only anti-reinstatement people are permitted to post in this thread. It’s for everybody…

Those who are in favor of reinstatement of any of the suspended persons are just as welcome to express their opinions as those who oppose it.

In fact, anyone who would like to express an opinion, for OR against reinstatement of any of the suspended parties, in a way that might make a difference, is welcome to send a letter to USEF as follows:

Ms. Lori Nelson
Hearings Committee Liaison
U.S. Equestrian Federation
4047 Iron Works Parkway
Lexington, KY 40511
U.S.A.

Oh! poor baby. I am so sorry but my IQ is 178 plus many years to mature and learn with the brains that God gave me. So let’s not start that competition because I have a head start and you have a handicap.

The horrible secret of adulthood is that all the snitches are the ones running the place!

Erin why aren’t the trolls just plain banned?

and Snowbird has never omitted any quirks of her sale horses.

Why doesn’t PV just buy the domain name www.iscrewedupandimsorry.com and post a permanent “I’m sorry” letter to the horse world for anyone to go read?

Chanda pray tell what are you drinking, smoking or ingesting to come up with that?

I posted the rules of the BB, and you agreed that they applied the terms to USEF rules. There’s been multiple accusations of USEF rule violations for which Paul has not been charged. Hence, those accusations are in violation of the BB rules.