The "NO REINSTATEMENT" thread.

OH! you’re just feeling sad for that weak little y thing, but one little guy made it.

I like to share with my friends.

Seal Harbor a special what?

Originally posted by anthem35:

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by Sherry3313 Groom of Winners Aefvue Farms:
For those of you claiming that PV doesn’t own any horses that are showing during his suspension, this comes DIRECTLY from Mason Phelps…

"Winter Equestrian Festival Week 7 Wrap-Up, March 9-13, 2005 CN Finale, CSIO-US 4*, ‘AA’

Contact:
Mason Phelps, Jr. of Phelps Media Group, Inc. at (561) 753-3389 or at

The R.W. “Ronnie” Mutch Scholarship winner, Cathy Rolfs, placed eighth in Section A of the ASPCA Maclay and had scores of 80 in both the hunter and jumper phases of the WIHS Equitation Classic. Zazou Hoffman, the R.W. “Ronnie” Mutch Working Student winner, placed ninth in the ASPCA Maclay and also received a score of 80 in the hunter phase of the WIHS Equitation Classic. Both girls were graciously loaned wonderful horses to compete on. Rolfs rode Aristocrat, who is owned by Paul Valliere, while Hoffman rode Missy Clark’s Long Island. "

I believe that this was a wording error on Mason’s part, to which he has subsequently corrected. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jeez anthem35…you’ll say anything to defend your guy [/QUOTE]

No, this is actually the truth.

Paul is NOT my guy, and he has a lovely girl of his own.

I am not defending anything other than what I believe.

Why do you feel the need to discredit me for standing up for someone I believe in?[/QUOTE]

I provided information that proved that a horse owned by PV WAS used at a recognized show-a Press Release put out by a well known “horsey” public relations company. Why don’t you show us where this information has been “subsequently corrected”. Don’t forget to include the date of its publication.[/QUOTE]

A PRESS RELEASE?

A horse owned by AWF can and is eligible to compete at any USEF competition.[/QUOTE]

Read it again. It says the horse is owned by Paul Valliere NOT AWF.

I do not have a problem with people who choose to give their business to PV. I could not personally, but I don’t expect others to share my standards. I also don’t mind that he is on the parking lot with his walkie talkie. I kind of like the mental imagery of that. The fact that he is there speaks volumes about his place in our sport and I think we need to do whatever it takes to make sure he stays there.

Harry., I want to be one of the motley crew!!

Oh wait! I AM one of the motley crew!!!

Ahh, Brunswick House. Equit8tor, do you remember the ELMO as well?

Excellent, I was just going to email the Leadership group. I will also help fund if you will place the order. You know how far behind I am.

That’s a great idea and I’m just working on the new Membership forms.I think we can leave it with voluntary funding and anyone else can make a donation to the fund.

I think that the USHJA as our National Affiliate representing all of us in the Hunter and Jumper world needs to be concerned. Acceptance for Reinstatement requires remorse and a change of attitude from the horseman who hired a killer to make a horse’s death look like an accident.

I am really disappointed that in this respect you find no empathy for the horse that had it’s life shortened for no reason. This horse could have been sold down and made someone talented a real opportunity. If as you believe Paul Valiere has not technically broken any rules there certainly seems to be little doubt that he has also not respected them.

That doesn’t look like remorse to me. I think in your position with USHJA you should be concerned about who may become a role model for youngsters.

Beware …Beware … the trolls are coming. They can’t tolerate intelligent discussion. Ignore them do not respond…do not respond to them.

Do we know who of those 23 was the other that was the second to be reinstated?

Great way to help your cause.

Could you please stop with the innuendo and conjecture… what exactly is my cause?

didn’t know that Nancy had applied for reinstatement either. However, I’d never heard of her, other than the fact that she was one of the horse killers. Paul Valliere is a much more visible entity, in part because of the Eq judging issue earlier.

Well, I thought you were against all those who were involved in the horse killings not just those who are “much more visable entities”. If you only attack those who are high profile then that to me would seem like a vendetta against one person and since this entire forum only talks about PV and his actions I wonder why this is not defined as a vendetta.

WHEN were you at Hampshire? I was 71F (second entering class). I drove over the Notch on a regular basis.

Janet, you were a Hampshire founder! I admire that; it took guts to enroll in the brand new experiment. I was F78, a transfer from Syracuse University. Was your Hampshire experience as chemically enhanced as my Hampshire experience? You may plead the Fifth if counsel advises.

Ho hum…

hold on I’m still typing…

But, how does one quote portions from numerous posts in the same reply? Can you do that without editing your own post? (Sorry, Erin - this is probably in FAQ…)

I have found, only recently, that if I highlight a portion of someone’s post for quoting purposes and hit “copy”, it retains the “quote” for the original poster in my reply. Pretty cool!

on second thought… how much does a POS go for per pound these days?

Scout, dear, the reason this whole thing came up at all is because Anthem, one of PV’s customers, came onto this board and praised his horsemanship to the skies.

The ensuing debate sprang from that one post. If she hadn’t said anything, there would not be three threads about PV on the first page.

Thanks snow and WA, obviously I wasn’t paying enough attention. Expect my order this coming weekend!

I have also read on here that PV never apologized to his friends and in fact, hasn’t talked about the insurance killings in ten years.

That is untrue. I cannot speak for anyone else, but I have personally heard Paul apologize and express his remorse to my satisfaction and that of my family. It was many years ago, around the time of the incident, but it’s certainly not something I would forget.
I don’t know how you can make a statement like that based upon just the contents of a gossip-ridden and speculative thread.

Originally posted by harryjohnson:
Secretly I think big dawg is in agreement with you all, and just trying to keep things in discussion.

Just snooping around for the animal rights terrorists…

oh stop you loff me I know I know