But, not just for forgiveness’ sake. I am horrified by what amounts to a “mob” trying to influence the Hearing Committee and deny PV his Due Process when this case comes before them. In all trials, a defendant
I did read your post…deny PV his due process…your words.
VirginiaBred, I am so sorry to hear that. I know this is truely the ugly side of the horse world, but I think some people forget or do not know the magnitude of the situation.
Originally posted by Renn/aissance : Aefvue’s Pharmacist:
You know, I was trying to stay out of this.
But imagine that this horse was your horse. Maybe he wasn’t ever going to be what you and your trainer had hoped he would be- maybe he never would have succeeded over the bigger fences. But this was a good horse, and a horse that you love. You arrive at the show one day to find that he’s dead, and you’re heartbroken. Your horse, the one that you love, your baby, is dead. Maybe you watch him being dragged away- or maybe you couldn’t bear to watch. But then you find out that your trainer, whom you admire, killed him.
What would you do?
You know what I think about every time I hear about the possibility of reinstating Paul Valliere? I think of the sight of my own horse lying dead in a gully and of the effort it took to cuddle his head in my lap. I think of the way he was lying. I think of his eye, glassy and unmoving. And I think of his paroxysms of death, as the blood from his heart flooded his body and his lungs, and then the way that time stopped when I saw him lying still. I will never, ever forget that sight. I don’t think that any horse owner who has seen their horse die will forget the way their horse looked, dead. A few months before John died, he had finally convinced us all that he wasn’t happy as a hunter and equitation horse. Instead of forcing him to do something he hated, we switched careers and he went foxhunting instead. What would have happened to John if Paul Valliere had been his trainer? My dear horse, who was fabulous in the hunt field and an amazing teacher, would have been killed because he didn’t fit the trainer’s ideal. Let me tell you what I would have done if I found out that my trainer had had my horse killed because he was unsuccessful at his job. I would have bided my time and planned. And I would have killed my horse’s murderer in such a way that he saw my face before he died.
I say murderer because that is what Paul Valliere had done to this horse. First-degree murder in cold blood. Nobody’s denying that. But look at the difference in punishments between his murder of a horse and the way he would have been punished had he murdered a human. Instead of life inprisonment or even the death penalty, Paul Valliere has continued life as usual, with some adjustments- maybe he’s not physically on the show grounds anymore, but he’s still training and he’s still making a living off of the horses. And now we’re going to accept him back into society, all smiles, and shake his hand and say “So glad to have you back, I know you’ve changed”? While we’re at it, let’s open up the doors to the prisons and free the convicted murderers. Okay, maybe not the serial killers; after all, Valliere just had one horse killed. But the guys who’ve knocked off one person? Eh, they’ve done their time, I’m sure they’re sorry.
You know what? Maybe he has changed. I don’t know the guy. I’m not saying it’s impossible. But it’s too late now. Paul Valliere made his decisions years ago and he’s going to have to deal with the consequences.
I wouldn’t know Paul Valliere if I met him on the street. But I do not support his reinstatement. It’s not about him. It’s about the people who cried for that horse, and the horses that he might have killed if he hadn’t been caught. But mostly, I do not support reinstatement because of the horse that he killed. The horseman’s charter posted in the front of the USEF rulebook says it all. This sport is about the horse and the horse’s welfare. We are in this sport, not out of money, but out of love for the horse. And that’s what it comes down to.
Nicely said Renn. Sums it up well.
That’s super Zorro and I expect by Monday to have the Pay Pal Link up for anyone who wants a red “No-Reinstatement bracelet” or to make a donation to the fund. I can be emailed or phoned for credit cards and the address is on the usAHSA.org web site.
Thanks to Harry I’ve looked up the procedures and we should be able to take the credit cards or direct withdrawal through PayPal. I’ve made a donation button so it should be tax deductable. If you make a deduction which is tax deductible you cannot get anything back like the bracelet which has a value.
I hope you all haven’t forgotten the idea of tying red ribbons at every show you attend to let people know the project has great public “grassroots” support.
Quick update - the web site is almost done. I’m just struggling with the URL parking thing & getting it all set up. It ain’t pretty b/c I’m no HTML genius, but at least it’ll be functional. Once it’s up I will welcome any comments, suggestions for improvement, etc. Expect it in a couple of days, hopefully.
And don’t forget we have some great merch that horse_poor and Lori B. did. The link is in my sig.
Keep crossposting and thanks for your continued support!!
Sleeping is the best thing for you to do xegeba, let PV do all the “dirty work” at night
Boberry… you have become the Howard Dean of the NO REINSTATEMENT cause… and you are boring … hence the 
But Chanda, it is a horse welfare issue. You can back his right to reapply, but the issue isn’t just of that. It is what he was found guilty of. Suspended from the AHSA/USEF for. Insurance fraud in killing a horse. His own. If that isn’t a horse welfare than what is?
Snowbird, here is the URL of the manufacturer: http://www.reminderbands.com By all means, make more, sell them, fund the cause. I, on the other hand, am more inclined to step back and watch. The ones I have had made are in cardinal red, so that the ones that you (or whomever) sells can match.
I’ve updated the main page of www.noreinstatement.org with the following: (1) information as to why petition signatures now require approval and (2) to encourage people to write to USEF. I’ve posted USEF’s address.
So, for those who are not comfortable signing the petition for whatever reason, there’s always the option to write a POLITE letter to USEF.
Anthem - First, Hi 
I saw your boy in results recently and was happy to see he’s being a good boy to his new rider. Hope you’re doing well too. Second, I have a question about an apology from Paul. You may not know or care to comment but I thought I would put it out there:
Why do you think Paul hasn’t used the media attention - and that one article in particular where he was recently quoted sounding annoyed (at least to me) - to state how sorry he is and what has changed?
I asked earlier but thought I would try again. This struck me as odd.
Chanda, would you agree that not allowing someone to be reinstated to USEF, might be a deterrent to those that might consider doing what he did in the future? Because letting someone back in certainly ISN"T a deterrent to killing a horse.
Now there’s an idea…or should we put the culprits up in a pelham with a too small twisted bit? A short martingale and how about one of those cowboy tie downs that pinch the right places.
It is being researched. Trying to find it. 
I get that…what I’m saying, he has no desire whatsoever to BE there…what on earth would he need there???
And I have NO idea where on earth he would have the time…
Originally posted by War Admiral:
Silver, LOL, nope - the “little people” quote was actually from the group of people who support the “horse killers” - it came from Phelps Media in this article.
Now see, I have a problem with your above statement. It was Mason Phelps, the individual, who was quoted as saying “the little guys”, in response to complaints over having Paul Valliere judge the Equus Medal. It was NOT "from the group of people who support the “horse killers” ". If you’re going to cite quotes, at least try to be exact. 
Just because its fallen back a few pages and I dont know if anybody will read it, I’ll post again. I do have NO REINSTATEMENT bracelets being made. Not many, but some. If you would like one, please PM me.
X & Sheila…oh, forget it. Where’s my tinfoil hat?
Is under her control the same as under her umbrella? Isn’t that a policy question for your insurance broker? And can we have the definition of a natural death for horses?
Snowbird, let’s please not make factual statements as to anyone’s intention or lack thereof. We have no idea what anyone’s intention was.
Good question. Thought the suspension was permanent. But from this, it does look like he can reapply.
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