I’ll bet.
Good job Erin. 
How can you tell if its the same person? I’m kinda lost on that one!
I do not think that there is any sort of movement against those who compete at A level shows.
Originally posted by Snowbird:
I was there for the discussions and I believe they were allowed to participate to show their remorse; they would totally comply with no paticipation in horse shows. They needed to contribute in a way that showed their sincere remorse. At that time Jane Clark was President and intended for them to prove they had reformed that they were an example of exemplary behavior and good sportsmanship and that one mistake would never be repeated.
It was a well intentioned purpose to leave the door open in the conviction that it was a “moment of temprary insanity”. However, it was not intended that they tread the line and bend the rules to appear compliant. That started later and seemed to be accepted behavior so they felt encouraged.
If that is your definition of ‘the purpose’, can you at least acknowledge the fact that PV did spend weeks and weeks in Louisiana after the hurricane to help rescue horses and other pets?
Can you at least recognize what, in your own words was ‘an attempt to contribute in a way to show remorse’?
Sheila H- I hardly think you know more about this game than all the rest of us put together- prove it. As it stands now you just open your mouth and let the drivel out as long as it comes out sounding all knowing. Please, you are like many of the other blowhards, throw stuff out, allude to how in the know you are and offer nothing of any value.
You should find that sock.
ever had a cat that tinkles on the stove? Now THAT is passive-aggressive(or indicates a more serious disease).
Serah, I’d certainly feel a little jaded if I had done what you did. Good for you for taking action. How sad and pathetic that the insurance company didn’t do anything. It actually shocks me as the few times I’ve known insurance companies to deal with insured horses that are badly hurt, they take great precautions to ensure it is a valid claim.
Don’t let that one insurance company’s behavior stop you from trying to protect horses.
Welcome lure and thank you.
TRAKEHNER… Politics or not… you have stated the obvious! I believe many top professionals do not condone what PV did, and they will avoid taking a stand in public at any cost. That’s their choice… unfortunately.
As long as there’s sex and drugs, I can do without the rock and roll.
So far, this petition has less than one percent of USEF’s total membership signing it, and many of the signatures do not inlcude membership numbers. It is looking like a well intended but futile effort.
Originally posted by CollectAll:
War Admiral,
While I agree this could go on for years, PV will be the first and probably most supported of those seeking reinstatement. We should take the opportunity to use his application to set a precedent for those to follow. If we succeed this time, it will just get easier, however if he is reinstated, it will be a difficult arguement to keep the others out.
You are SO right!!!
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Originally posted by Snowbird:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>I would like to again bring your attention to page GR67 of the 2005 Rule Book. In the article labeled VIOLATIONS.
1.c. Penalization by an administrative agency, humane society, or court of law for violation of Federation Rules.
1.h. Exhibiting any horse while in the care, training or custody of a suspended trainer.
1.i.Riding, exhibiting, coaching or training for the benefit, credit, reputation or satisfaction of a suspended person.
VarsityHero and have you also heard of “ipso facto”?
1. He does own a horse business and employs people as well as trains them and sells horses. he has a barn in grand prix village in wellington and one in mass.
- the reason he hasn’t tried to apply is because even though he is allowed to be reinstated, believe it or not he HAS decided to not reapply as he does not want to do that kind of stuff anymore nor does he want to deal with the politics. benefits of knowing him: asking him stuff. still convinced that knowing him is not beneficial ise?
Hero my good friend! Thank you! You have proved our case. Why would someone have a barn and employees in Wellington if he did not have care and custody of horses competing at the show next door. If there are ads that thank him for his help then he gets a benefit but the persons who are riding, exhibiting to his his benefit are all in violation of the current rules.
This confirms his lack of remorse and he lack of respect for the regulation of the Federation.
How many people have been corrupted by failure to be notified that they are in severe vilation of the NEW Rules of USEF which is a totally new Federation as of Decemebr 1, 2003. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
again, he is not in violation of the new rules, nor any rules. he employs other trainers that train these horse at the shows etc. he IS believe it or not allowed to run a facility and train the horses in it privately. he is not benefitting from recognized shows that this trainer shows at because of the fact that this trainer is employed by him and is paid by him, but it IS the other trainer’s and the client’s choices what shows to take their horses too. he does not have immediate involvement in it, therefore he is not violating the rules.
I would just like to say that I am proudly sporting my red “No Reinstatement” bracelet
Anthem-That was perfectly put. THANK YOU
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Jetsmom-Yes, he did.
Before I even showed up at the barn, this was addressed.
I did not, however press him for answers to any questions, well, simply becasue I didnt have any.
I knew enough of the story, and didn’t need a personal apology.
As someone who has made enough mistakes in my life in not my finest hour, I felt no need to inflict any more unhappiness than he had already caused himself.
that twisted old fruit
Okay, okay…I’ll return to the leper colony; But you gotta admit…you all cracked up at THAT one 
It’s great to "sign " the petition, and, see the number goup!
BostonChicken–That’s what I was trying to say, but it didn’t exactly come across at all like that!
It makes no sense…and I don’t think that anyone will EVER understand what’s going through big dawg’s mind.
And as far as the age of this young woman - isn’t it somewhat frightening that she’s reached this point and doesn’t see the crime in killing one’s own horse for money
Dopey logic.
