Trakehner Stallions from back in the day....

I acquired a daughter of Impressionist last June. Hat Trick was born in Minnesota. My BO bought her when BO lived in Minn. I don’t know much about ATAs.

Any articles on Impressionist anywhere? Thanks.

Ah cloudy. Love love love Impressionist. Joe (aqua farms) stood him. I have info on him on my website. Just found an old video of him from the ATA convention in 2005 that I put on my farm fb page/YouTube. I bred to him 3 times and love the kids. Pm me yorur email. :).

Mikado is also in my 3/4 tb mare (and thus her kids). Sire of 4 approved sons. I have info and some old photos (I think) of him as well. Get up w/me on him too. :slight_smile: Janet. :slight_smile:

ETA - Mikado was sire of 4 approved sons, not 2 (hazards of typing on IPhone…). The 4 were Bagatel (who evented and did dressage with Anne Gribbons, He was also ATA’s Hunter of the Year in 1977, in 1978 he won both the ATA’s Verband Award - given to the most successful ATA horse in dressage, and also in 1978 he also won the ATA’s high scoring dressage horse award. ), Boralis, Morgenstern, and Mikalob (who was later gelded). Mikado was also the sire to Titlebild was an eventer and won the Forderverin award (given to the most successful ATA horse in eventing) in 1982 and 1983. I scanned this photo out of an ATA magazine of Titlebild : http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.438680259523.234961.174716424523&type=3#!/photo.php?fbid=10150305649079524&set=a.438680259523.234961.174716424523&type=3&theater

Also - here is a photo of Bagatell: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.438680259523.234961.174716424523&type=3#!/photo.php?fbid=10150305684339524&set=a.438680259523.234961.174716424523&type=3&theater

The mare that I have that has Mikado in her (her maternal grandsire is Bagatell) has kids that seem to have the talent for dressage but they ALL jump, and jump well (and love it).

I’ll keep looking for Mikado - I could have sworn I saved a photo of him. I did meet a lady a few years ago who rode Mikado (in dressage) back in the day. I am forgetting her name, but she had wonderful things to say about him - very rideable, lovely horse, etc. German lady, it will come to me (she is much older now).

thanks, a cottongim. I will look at it. She’s a cute little mare who is crazy about Cloudy. So I had to take her when she was being sold. Smart little mare too.

Well just about every TK I’ve ever worked was smart. :slight_smile: but the Imps have fantastic ride ability and train ability. Plus they are sweet tempered and pretty. :slight_smile:

Oh id have to find the magazine but I have the article from where he was approved also.

Sorry, realized not an old post. Was looking at on iPhone and saw your member since date…

Great trak info here…thanks for starting this.

This thread is very interesting…so great that people are sharing the stories of these stallions.
My Danish filly has a Trakehner in her pedigree–Eikon is her damsire. There is a small amount of info on him that I’ve been able to find on the internet and I’m pretty sure he’s passed.

I don’t know much about the breed, but it’s always interesting to read bits and pieces where I can! Thanks everyone for sharing!

Tarim

Sorry, just now found this post and wanted to give some information on one of the requested stallions, Tarim.

Tarim was one of 4 full siblings by the Elite stallion Condus out of the mare Themse II. Tarim himself was an S-level (Inter I) dressage stallion, his full brother Templeritter was also a successful upper-level dressage competitor. The two female siblings were Thila II (more about her below) and Tekoa dam of the GP Jumper, Tzigane Pb.

While in Germany, one of Tarim’s more notable daughters, 1988 Trakehner National Champion mare, Gute Sitte (out of a Mahagoni dam) produced a daughter, Gute Gesellschaft (by E.H. Consul). Gute Gesellschaft went on to produce the S-level dressage horse Don Jueves. Tarim was also damsire of the Grand Prix dressage stallion Lamborghini who was successful under Anja Plönzke.

The sibling that remained in Germany, Thila II put an indelible stamp on the legendary breeding program of Otto Langels @ Gestuet Haemelschenburg thru her daughter, Thiara (by Falke). Thiara produced the Grand Prix dressage horse Thimur (by Enrico Caruso PsE*) and the exceptional Elite mare Thirza - the shining star of the Haemelschenburg broodmare band. Thirza produced 19 foals including the FEI dressage gelding Tylord, 1996 Neumunster Reserve Champion Trocadero and the Trakehner Verband Premium mares Tavolara (by Exclusiv), Teresita (by Alter Fritz), Thalia (by Exclusiv), Taormina (by Freudenfest) and Theresa (by Schwadroneur).

A winner of multiple ATA HOY Awards and the Trakehner Verband Award (for the most successful purebred Trakehner in Dressage) Tarim was also the 1985 AHSA (now the USEF) National Dressage HOY Intermediare I - Champion and PSG - Champion. Tarim was last owned by Joan Peyton (Avignon Farm) of Upperville, VA. He passed away in 2002 at the age of 27.

Thirza produced 19 foals

wow.

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In 2008 she produced her 19th foal. She died at Haemelschenburg in December 2009 (I believe she was again in foal).

Thirza was my favorite of the Haemelschenburg mares, too!

Several photos of this grand mare here:
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?showpic=180307&time=1312707492

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thank you ! I clipped for the reply but love the whole note thanks

Tamara

Thanks Dawn J-L!

I may have pics of some of the stallions mentioned in the first post because I have ATA magazines back to the late 1970s. Of course, I don’t have an index to make looking them up easy! But, if you have an interest in a particular stallion, send me a PM and I can try to find him in the magazines, scan his picture, and email it to you.

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I’d be thrilled with anything with Falke. :slight_smile: Thanks!

Meistersinger:

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In 1978, in New Jersey, I took some of my very first dressage lessons from Major Vitold Slaski. He and another man (who I saw STILL showing about three years ago at the New Jersey Horse Park) Marty Bregman, had two facilities right across the road from each other, called I think Springbrook and Winterbrook. Anyway, Major Slaski was Polish and just when I was there he imported a Trakehner stallion named Sobek from Poland. He was a chestnut and I think must have been one of the first ones imported. Some years later I lived in Connecticut and rode with Melanie Tenney and a young guy (now dead) named Calvin Harrington. Turns out Sobek had been sold to University of Connecticut and Cal was riding him some–I think eventing. My friend (met her at Melanie’s) Meredith Hoag had a filly by Sobek. But I don’t think he ever did much competition-wise or had much success in the breeding shed. Looks like he mostly was used to produce event horses.

Also after I moved to Maryland in 1986 I became involved with PVDA and saw a lot of Meistersinger. He was owned by Larrrine and Russ Abolt who had Water’s Gift in Burtonsville, Maryland. He did show through FEI with Felicitas von Newman-Cosel and then Kelly Weiss who I believe was an ex-figure skater. Kelly and Meistersinger participated in an exhibition that I helped organize at Gunston Hall in Virginia (we showcased a bunch of horse stuff) in about 80 zillion degree humid weather in around 1994 or 5. The Abolts sold Water’s Gift and moved to I think Meistersinger was sold or they took him with them and later sold him. I believe he is dead now.[/QUOTE]

Meister is gone. He went with me to California prior to Russ and Larine selling Waters’ Gift Farm. I then moved to FL to work with Robert Dover Meister lived in AZ for about a year and then was retired at carousel farm in Chicago, where he lived out his remaining years. I am currently at Tuny pages’ farm in Wellington, FL along with Robert Dover, Oded Shimoni, Tuny Page, and until Recently Lisa Wilcox. I teach Clinics around the Country through the Grand Prix level. “Kelly Weiss”

i happened to come across this old thread by chance, when looking for bloodlines with a friend online. i knew Sobek personally, and i knew him well, as well as the Slaski family. Sobek and i were born in the same year, and i knew Major Slaski’s wife and children when i boarded at their barn when i attended Centenary College from 1994-1998. he stood just under 17h (about 16.3) though his offspring, especially females, were shorter. his wife kept Sobek through his retirement after her husband passed from a sudden heart attack. as her daughters got ready to go to college themselves, she found a home for Sobek as a light breeding horse at a nearby farm.

About a year after Sobek left, i by chance wound up working for the summer for this man Mark who had a few studs, including a hard to handle Trak. turned out the Trak was Sobek, and he’d often find me on my lunch break napping with the stallion in his stall asleep on his back. he was a special horse indeed. after that summer i lost track of him other than to hear that he had passed away peacefully. he was at that point in his late 20s. that horse had evented all over Europe with the Major and came over to the States to start their live together over here. he was a great friend to me, and while i never had the good fortune to ride him, i will never forget napping in his stall to the amazement of his owner, who was stunned that this pushy stallion would turn to a pussycat with me. we just always clicked.

years later, i had my own barn with a friend, who mentioned that she knew of a mare that had come from auction and been rehabbed but was still headstrong to ride. she was not suitable as a lesson horse at the barn she was at and they were looking to rehome her, and my friend had agreed. i knew of the mare, a 15.3h striking and headstrong chestnut, and once she showed up i looked at her and recognized her father. Sobutka (a horse for lease ad linked earlier in this thread) was indeed a 1986 baby by Sobek, and i contacted my former barn owner and her breeder to let her know that she was safe and sound and would be with me for the remainder of her life. turns out that she was one of the last ones bred by the Major himself.

Sobutka lived with me and gave me, and some of my very lucky advanced students, wonderful rides until her retirement in her early twenties. She lived out her days on my farm until heading into one winter, her arthritis caught up with her and she was peacefully laid to rest here on my property. She, like her father, was truly an amazing horse.

i am blessed to have known them both, and thank all of you for sharing their stories here, as i always heard Lois (the Major’s wife) talk about Sobek’s importance and influence in Polish breeding and in the EU eventing world. reading more about it, when i knew both he and his daughter so intimately as well as i have brought tears and a smile to my eyes.

thank you all. both Sobek and Sobutka lived well into their late 20s, and enjoyed the retirement they deserved. my only wish was that i had the chance to know Sobutka or her father in their viable breeding days to have had the chance to own and carry on such a great Polish legacy!

Impressionist

I have a little ATA mare by Impressionist. I read on Coth a year or two ago where he died. I think he was in FL? Hat Trick is from a breeder in Minnesota. She chose not to be bred when her former owner tried to breed her to her stud. And got her hind leg torn up, but John Malark the great vet down here repaired her leg.

The only horse that Hat Trick will breed to is Cloudy. Therefore we ended up with her 2 yrs ago. She’s smart and cute and bossy.

I don’t know much about Impressionist, but people on Coth have told me that he was good.

oops, this is an old thread on which I’ve already posted. Sorry.

Cloudy - Old thread, but yes, Impressionist did pass away a few years ago and he lived down here in FL. I knew him very well and loved him dearly, in fact when I would visit his owner I would go to his stall first to give him a kiss and a pat. He was known to reproduce his good type (very pretty horse - esp in the head) as well as very rideable horses. I bred to him 3 times and they were/are wonderful “kids” :slight_smile: Here is a video I took back in 2005 at an ATA Convention of him. The quality isn’t great, it was on an older video recorder which I’ve converted over to disc and uploaded onto YouTube. One day I’ll convert the video I have that Joe used to send out for breeding… :slight_smile:
I have lots of photos and videos of my Impressionist kids feel free to PM me :slight_smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eobPF3mGEk&feature=share&list=PL05yRz_YtIAvzPCsZ07T7ToUpn2uOnHPr