The post is there. I think I deleted it while scrolling on my phone(all you have to do is press the trash can…on accident, apparently 
). I undid the delete a bit ago so the post is there.
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Ok, I’m technologically challenged but I’ll try to respond later today. Thanks.
Mine was made when she recorded a young woman walking through a store because LK and RG thought she was dressed weird. For the record the young woman was wearing a short skirt based on anime characters.
LK recorded her as she shopped, following behind her and laughing with RG at how “gross” the girl was, while in a louder voice talking about how she just couldn’t find XYZ. LK followed ad recorded her all the way up to the check out lane.
And then she posted it on her Facebook page. For no other reason than to make fun of someone that she didn’t know from Adam.
I was willing to give LK the benefit of the doubt regarding MB. She is a drama llama and it got out of hand. I could see that.
But once she posted that video to Facebook and defended recording it and publicly sharing it (Shoot, that young woman could have been under age), I decided that someone with that kind of amorality is capable of just about anything. Including terrorizing a family and a business simply because she could.
Karma is a bitch and she does catch up with people eventually.
Sheilah
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It is cloudy, windy and getting ready to storm in Lexington. NC is very well represented at the USDF Dressage Finals and are already kicking booty! 
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Can you imagine how unnerved or even scared that young woman may have felt, being stalked, filmed and laughed at publicly by two predatory 40+ year olds? Particularly if (IF) she was a minor?
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https://www.nj.gov/oag/njvictims/rights.html
Here is more info on victim rights more specific to NJ.
I find it interesting, and related to what how much and what kind of information a victim is allowed about what is going on with the trial, as well as protection a victim is offered.
Especially…
“ To be free from intimidation, harassment or abuse by any person including the defendant or any other person acting in support of or on behalf of the defendant, due to the involvement of the victim or witness in the criminal justice process; ”
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Same basic protection etc as NJ court. I have added the info specific to NJ. I never claim to be a lawyer. And I am willing to update or correct if I am wrong. I find it interesting and relevant as how the courts do not support victim shaming and what rights a victim has as far as access to information about what is going on with the investigation, info on potential trial or pleas deal,
It certainly more relative then some of the legal information that has been posted here, followed by, “ I don’t know it this is the law in NJ but this is the law in my state.”
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Legal people, would having an attorney testify on the stand as a witness to the shooting in the criminal trial undo their client privilege?
Um, maybe?
Does the attorney represent the person in some other setting outside of this case? If so, the attorney could potentially not answer questions that get into attorney-client privileges, like why they were on the phone when the fracas started but may be able to just give an account of what they heard. Excited utterances and all that. They may be willing to describe their actions (calling 911 or someone) in reaction to what they heard. again that likely wouldn’t be privileged info, but I suspect any attorney in that position is going to try to get out of it if possible.
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The irony of people calling posters a plague in the thread …when they are the ones who post the most and post the most hateful hostile comments?
Then telling other posters what to post or not post, after lecturing the people they argue with constantly that they can’t do that.
This thread is toooooo much
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Are you Facebook friends with her?
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But you like it, you keep coming back for more 
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I know, glutton for punishment.
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And have also told people what to post or not post… as well as lecturing… so there ya go.
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Two things can be true at the same time. A person can be a self absorbed narcissistic mean human and also a victim. Does her behavior contribute to her Injury ? Perhaps. Doesn’t justify it. Maybe it just explains how a noxious person can drive someone to make an incredibly bad choice. Both are responsible in a way. Who is more culpable will weigh out in court.
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@Inigo-montoya I am glad that mod 1 says you are not LK, because if you are LK I am surprised some by this form of you. Lala could rant away at us (general forum) but was typically willing to discuss.
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Ok here goes. Just to get one thing out of the way…when I said this has become an LK bashing site I was not referring to COTH form itself. I should have said the threads concerning LK/MB have become an LK bashing site. COTH has many other discussion forums which, of course, have nothing to do with LK/MB.
To give you a general answer to your questions about LK’s past behavior…if you think about what I’m gonna say I believe you’ll start to understand. Clearly there are two sides to every story…I have no doubt LK had conflicts with certain people including several here. That’s fine and they’re free to hate her…I have no problem with that.
But as to what when wrong between LK and MB consider this. LK did not arrive at Sweetgrass weeks or months before the shooting. She came nearly 18 months earlier after the 2018 Florida season…around March/April 2018. LK had been living in NC for several years and was in Wellington with her trainer (from NC) when she met MB. MB liked LK and her horses and did everything he could to get her to move to NJ along with her horses. He told her repeatedly, “NC is where dressage dreams go to die.” People here refuse to believe that but, of course, it’s true. And MB didn’t mean to disparage NC or anyone from NC…that was just MB being MB.
Anyway…LK went to NJ and spent 2018 training with MB. There were no problems. Apparently MB did not have the issues with LK that posters here seem to have had. They went to Florida together in December 2018 until April 2019…again all was fine. LK was clearly not the person people here like to say she was…MB certainly did not think so. He wanted her to come back to NJ with him for 2019. MB told LK there was a problem, however. There was a burst pipe in the house on the property at Sweetgrass where LK would stay. LK said, no problem. I’ll go back to my house in NC with my horses and you can let me know when there’ll be a place for me to live in NJ and I’ll come back then. But MB didn’t want that…he said, no, no, no…don’t worry…come back with me and we’ll figure it out.
And that’s what started the problem. There was only one house although there were 3 levels for separate living quarters. However, MB had recently been divorced and now had a much younger girlfriend. This girlfriend had children and expected that she, MB and her kids would live in the house and a floor would remain unoccupied for when her parents came to visit from NC. There’s nothing wrong with that…except MB promised LK that if she came back for 2019 she could live in the house. LK had a house in NC but no place in NJ unless MB provided one.
The girlfriend was enraged and told LK she had to leave. MB continually told his much younger girlfriend to STFU. MB, to his credit, insisted he had made a deal with LK and he intended to honor it.
In June, LK brought another horse to NJ at MB’s insistence. LK was in a position to pay MB what he asked and the more horses the more money for MB. This further enraged the young girlfriend. In July, just weeks before the shooting MB encouraged LK to bring yet another horse to NJ.
And …this in out of sequence but it’s important you know this and maybe it’ll help you know what kind of person LK really is. Either right before they left for Florida in 2018 or when they returned in April 2019 MB wanted to sell one of his own horses who was 16 years old. The last thing LK needed was another horse…but she loves horses and had gotten to know this particular horse. She was heard to say “this horse has lived his entire live in this barn and shouldn’t have to be sold to a stranger and go to a strange barn at his age. I’ll borrow whatever money I can to buy this horse and keep here where he has lived his entire life.” And she did. So when people try to tell you LK is a monster…keep that story in mind.
Now back to our timeline. Ok, speaking of certainly not being a monster, LK had now been with MB for nearly 18 months and he certainly didn’t think she was a monster. But, unfortunately, the girlfriend wanted LK gone. MB, on the other hand, encouraged LK to bring more horses.
Now no relationship is perfect. LK had been bitten by a recluse spider in early July and was often sick. She sometimes canceled her lesson with MB at the last minute. HOWEVER, she paid for her lesson whether she came or canceled. So, this was an annoyance to MB but certainly nothing more. LK was MB’s biggest customer and she always paid.
By late July, when LK had brought another horse to NJ from Europe, the new girlfriend had had enough. She regularly threatened to leave MB if he didn’t get rid of LK. I felt horrible for MB. He had just divorced his wife to be with this younger woman who was now tormenting him and threatening to leave him.
So now it’s 17 months LK has been with MB and he’d never suggested she leave. What happened in the last 10 days I really can’t discuss. But as I’ve said, and certain people here refuse to believe, poor MB actually was tormented and cajoled and put in a difficult position. But it was NOT LK or RG who tormented him.
Here is the bottom line…I hope you now understand better and can accept this fact. MB took a gun and shot LK but it was definitely the girlfriend who put the gun in his hands, figuratively (of course).
And one more thing that may shock you…if LK could press a button and have MB released from prison and the girlfriend put there instead, she’d press it without question.
OK…I’ve told what I know to be true and what I can discuss. And one more thing…just so some of the liars on this thread are clear. In the last days MB and LK called Safesport to complain about each other. They didn’t call the police because it wasn’t that kind of complaint… it was probably dumb of both of them in my opinion. But one thing I know for certain…one of the questions Safesport asked LK was…“is MB abusing the minor children?” And LK answered, “NO!” And believe me there is a transcript of both their calls. So anyone whom says LK accused MB of abusing the children is a clueless liar.
Hope that was helpful.
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QFP
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Thanks. Saved ten other people the trouble. Lol.
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Can someone who remembers the details remind me, wasn’t the topic of calling SS on MB something that LK said that she had not done? Or was that just the calling CPS thing?
Laugh. Ten more people will still do it.
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