Veterinarian Proudly Shows Off Cat She Killed

[Angela_Freda]

[QUOTE=hastyreply;8121840]
She can work in research or as a drug rep and make more money than she would have as a vet in someone else’s practice.

I suppose none of you have thought about all those vets in research doing all sorts of things to cats, dogs, rabbits, rats…

For those who think bad things don’t go on in just about every vet clinic, behind closed doors, are just fooling themselves.[/QUOTE]

While pharma might pay as much as working in a clinic… she still has those Vet school bills to pay back perhaps, so… then…
Most pharma companies frown on criminal records. If she gets charged with anything, pharma sales would be out, IMO

[Casey09]

[QUOTE=hastyreply;8121840]
For those who think bad things don’t go on in just about every vet clinic, behind closed doors, are just fooling themselves.[/QUOTE]

There was a scandal involving a vet in my general area for abuse in the back room several years back. I’m sure things do go on, but I think it is wise for anyone to be careful. When this stuff comes to light, it is career ending for many. It only takes one whistleblower with a camera to reveal abusive situations. I don’t think that vets need to love animals, but I do look for a vet that shows concern for whether an animal is comfortable or not. I think that a smart professional in the veterinary field would be cautious about anything that could constitute abuse.
As far as working in research, I don’t know. That has a lot of regulations on treatment of animals, and I don’t know that it would be good PR to hire this person, at least not right now. I think it is inarguable that she damaged her career with this.

[chisamba]

[QUOTE=hastyreply;8121840]
She can work in research or as a drug rep and make more money than she would have as a vet in someone else’s practice.

I suppose none of you have thought about all those vets in research doing all sorts of things to cats, dogs, rabbits, rats…

For those who think bad things don’t go on in just about every vet clinic, behind closed doors, are just fooling themselves.[/QUOTE]

I worked in a vet clinic with five vets for many years as a vet tech, every technician, vet and care giver was consistently kind, considerate and respectful, even to the difficult animals. we all knew who was the better cat handler, and who managed aggressive dogs better, and would enlist each others help when needed.

not once was there every anything done that any of us would be ashamed of. I am very sure i would not bring my animal to a vet that i could not trust implicitly.

[foggybok]

[QUOTE=hastyreply;8121840]
She can work in research or as a drug rep and make more money than she would have as a vet in someone else’s practice.

I suppose none of you have thought about all those vets in research doing all sorts of things to cats, dogs, rabbits, rats…

For those who think bad things don’t go on in just about every vet clinic, behind closed doors, are just fooling themselves.[/QUOTE]

Every vet I know in research (and non vets as well) would be horrified by her actions. The would NOT hire her. People who do animal research do not enjoy causing pain and distress to animals.

[vacation1]

[QUOTE=hastyreply;8121840]
I suppose none of you have thought about all those vets in research doing all sorts of things to cats, dogs, rabbits, rats…[/QUOTE]

It’s inaccurate as well as offensive to compare this woman’s actions, even remotely, to those of scientists who use and kill animals in labs. There are guidelines to the care and treatment of research animals, and there are limits placed on what can be done to them in the name of science. I’ve worked in a field which touches on medical research, and have had instances where the science staff will flag a scientific paper for mice experiments which violate humane standards. I don’t mean to defend medical research using animals across the board. But it is a very different thing from trapping, mutilating and shooting a cat, then going out of your way to let people know about it and place a humorous spin on it.

[twelvegates]

Looks like the vet’s parents are back in WY and the vet’s whereabouts are unknown.

http://www.examiner.com/article/parents-of-texas-veterinarian-who-killed-a-cat-have-returned-home-to-wyoming

[Paks]

Well for all we know she is sitting in her house and not answering the phone. I do find it interesting that the AAEP which she is a member of is staying silent on the whole matter.

[StGermain]

Kristan Lindsey’s current status.

StG

[supershorty628]

@hastyreply;8121840

She can work in research or as a drug rep and make more money than she would have as a vet in someone else’s practice.

I suppose none of you have thought about all those vets in research doing all sorts of things to cats, dogs, rabbits, rats…

Why don’t you actually talk to a lab animal vet or someone in research before you go saying things like this? How incredibly insulting.

[summerhorse]

[QUOTE=Angela Freda;8121056]
The most recent news story I can find says that the remains of the cat are unaccounted for… whaaaa…?
How is it that the remains are unaccounted for, such that identifying the cat as Tiger or not, and how he was killed can be ascertained?[/QUOTE]

I suspect the body was disposed of when she was done with it. I suspect the minute the internet blew up, the remains were found and again disposed of, to NEVER be found again.

[Paks]

[QUOTE=summerhorse;8124524]
I suspect the body was disposed of when she was done with it. I suspect the minute the internet blew up, the remains were found and again disposed of, to NEVER be found again.[/QUOTE]

Like her mother’s phone.

[hastyreply]

[QUOTE=supershorty628;8124462]
Why don’t you actually talk to a lab animal vet or someone in research before you go saying things like this? How incredibly insulting.[/QUOTE]

I have talked to people who were in research involving animals and it wasn’t pretty. Maybe it’s all roses and cupcakes these days. I looked into it in the 90s and was told if I didn’t like what went on in vet clinics don’t get into research. Sorry if you were insulted.

[Preposterous_Ponies]

[QUOTE=hastyreply;8124892]
I have talked to people who were in research involving animals and it wasn’t pretty. Maybe it’s all roses and cupcakes these days. I looked into it in the 90s and was told if I didn’t like what went on in vet clinics don’t get into research. Sorry if you were insulted.[/QUOTE]

It’s not always pretty, but they certainly are not doing it for sport or for “fun”. They are doing it to learn and they try to make everything as humane as possible. My sister is not a vet, but has done animal research (cockroaches and later fish). She would certainly not do anything like the cat-killing vet, and while she did have to cull some of the fish she used, she sure as hell didn’t take enjoyment in that act. Hell, she wouldn’t have treated the cockroaches the way that woman treated that cat.

[Coyoteco]

The actions of this woman are beyond what most people do. As I understand it she trapped the cat in the steel jaw trap which is extremely brutal. She went to where she had caught the cat and as it looked to her for help she shot it in the forehead with a large arrow. Without waiting to the cat to die, she picked it up by the arrow that had gone through its skull and hung it in the air smiling proclaiming herself to be vet of the year, a hero for her merciless deed.

You can argue all you want about vivisection, but this act of abject cruelty stands above most any other.

I read on fb that there will be a determination later this week on whether to charge her. Hopefully, people will keep up the pressure.

[Paks]

Felines and Friends have posted their full statment on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152834020980920&id=308149830919

While it still seems whimpy at best they are apparently in very hostile territory with some people considering them to have been to hard on the Lindseys and have threaten the welfare of the animals in their care in retaliation. Apparently they are not well liked because they got a state law passed prohibiting the use of cats in the training of hunting dogs. So I can understand them treading lightly.

[summerhorse]

I am sure (unless her license to practice ANYwhere is revoked) that she will eventually be employed but it won’t (hopefully!) be in a small animal practice or probably a horse practice. She will most likely end up working with ranch cattle or inspecting auction cattle or meat or working in some non animal capacity.

Sadly.

[FineAlready]

[QUOTE=Paks;8126185]
Felines and Friends have posted their full statment on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152834020980920&id=308149830919

While it still seems whimpy at best they are apparently in very hostile territory with some people considering them to have been to hard on the Lindseys and have threaten the welfare of the animals in their care in retaliation. Apparently they are not well liked because they got a state law passed prohibiting the use of cats in the training of hunting dogs. So I can understand them treading lightly.[/QUOTE]

WHAT?!?!?!?! There are people who think/thought that it would be appropriate to use cats in the training of hunting dogs? Are you effing KIDDING ME?!?!?

[Paks]

[QUOTE=FineAlready;8126858]
WHAT?!?!?!?! There are people who think/thought that it would be appropriate to use cats in the training of hunting dogs? Are you effing KIDDING ME?!?!?[/QUOTE] Unfortunately not this is the quote from their website.

“Felines and Friends of Wyoming It has been a battle since moving here to educate people. I had to go to the commissioners and have a law passed that live animals (namely cats) couldn’t be used to train hunting dogs. Thankfully we got it changed but sadly not sure everyone got the message.”

[summerhorse]

Jeez, who knew they were so backward in WY? Even in the seat of redneckville very few people would even think of using cats to train hunting dogs. Sickos.

[DMK]

[QUOTE=hastyreply;8121840]
She can work in research or as a drug rep and make more money than she would have as a vet in someone else’s practice.

I suppose none of you have thought about all those vets in research doing all sorts of things to cats, dogs, rabbits, rats…

For those who think bad things don’t go on in just about every vet clinic, behind closed doors, are just fooling themselves.[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure which you need more education about - drug reps or research…

First, as a drug rep for vet practices (or medical practices for that matter), your financial success (and continued employment) is dependent on sales. On people wanting to engage with you and respect the knowledge you bring to the table about any particular subject. So I’m thinking being internationally famous in the way she has made herself does not particularly lend itself to Success in Sales, unless there is a niche market for sociopaths needing bows to kill household pets. But I’m thinking the average vet office would prefer NOT to see her darken their doorway. Ever. I’m certain the big pharma companies might feel emphatically even more so, given their PR nightmares lately.

As for research, others already said it. A researcher may decide that the sacrifice their test animals make is worth it in the name of finding a cure for [insert disease of choice], they can/will even revel in the advances or if they are fortunate, the cure… but that is separate from reveling in that sacrifice.

Lastly, bad things can happen anywhere. It is the byproduct of humans, one of our most dependable products. It’s what we do about bad things that matters. And as a side note, long before I moved into my current field, I ran a layup facility at a surgical center. Bad things did not happen. Oh absolutely, we had a dark sense of humor for coping (high speed lead treatment was ALWAYS offered up as the best treatment option for a well bred but untalented colt who routinely tried to kill people… sadly he just went on to an unremarkable stud career, so bad suggestions =/= bad actions). And yes, when I was young, I am quite certain I made frustrated mistakes in handling horses, something that years of experience changes. But you know… youth. Not bad, just youth.