Veterinarian Proudly Shows Off Cat She Killed

[Justa_Bob]

I am trying to not have knee jerk reactions to things posted on social media like the screenshot of this DVM’s picture with the dead cat. It really is too easy to take things out of context. A picture is just one snapshot in time, etc. And to criticize and analyze every piece of click bait - it seems narcissistic to always be providing your own opinion as if you are the most important person around.

But! I can’t in this instance not be moved deeply and disturbed greatly. Not only by the expression on the girl’s face in the photo, but the more chilling caption she wrote. Vet of the year?!

“My first bow kill, lol. The only good feral tomcat is one with an arrow through it’s head! Vet of the year award…Gladly accepted.”

I hope she looses her license. Isn’t there a huge list of applicants to get into vet school? Wouldn’t someone with this attitude get screened out?

This is so disturbing and her attitude so chilling. Am I just wrong in having that reaction?

[Paks]

Justa Bob I know what you mean. I’ve ended up doing a lot of research on this case, I know more Texas state code than I ever intended. But the most chilling thing is what the small animal vets have said and that is that the cat in the photo was still alive. Now as a vet she has no excuse for not knowing that the cat was alive and that I believe is going to be a major factor in how she is charged. Now the TVMA, the AVMA, the AAFP and her alma mater have all spoken out against her actions. The association that she belongs to however, the AAEP has remained silent.

[Justa_Bob]

Thank you Paks. In the picture, the cat doesn’t look dead at all…which I just did not need to know. Thanks for following the case - it’s telling those organizations that are and are not stating an opinion on the DVMs actions. A little consideration and thought about other living creatures can go a long way. (In no way a supporter of PETA, etc. Just a supporter of decency and common sense).

[Paks]

Some people in one of the facebook groups wanted to get PETA involved but sanity ruled. Not a fan of PETA or HSUS myself

[vacation1]

[QUOTE=Paks;8173991]
Some people in one of the facebook groups wanted to get PETA involved but sanity ruled. Not a fan of PETA or HSUS myself[/QUOTE]

Considering the low value placed on animal life by the law and the reality that this vet is going to be fighting for her professional life, it might be worth getting into bed with PETA if it helps get a fitting punishment for this woman’s vicious behavior.

[Paks]

The only difference between PETA and Lindsey on the subject of feral cats is how you kill them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/05/pets-shelter-euthanization-rate_n_6612490.html
and from PETA
http://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/what-is-petas-stance-on-programs-that-advocate-trapping-spaying-and-neutering-and-releasing-feral-cats/

Love this part

Nevertheless, PETA’s position has never been that all feral cats should be euthanized. We believe that trap, vaccinate, spay/neuter, and release programs are acceptable when the cats are isolated from roads, people, and other animals who could harm them; regularly attended to by people who not only feed them but care for their medical needs; and situated in an area where they do not have access to wildlife and where the weather is temperate.

anyone know where a cat can be outside and not have access to wildlife? Or are isolated from people but people are suppose to feed them and take care of their medical needs? Since their conditions can not be met they kill.

[vacation1]

[QUOTE=Paks;8177813]
The only difference between PETA and Lindsey on the subject of feral cats is how you kill them.[/QUOTE]

I agree with PETA that trap-and-release is inhumane. So am I just like Lindsey? Euthanasia is not a trap that tears off a leg and an arrow through the brain, and then being suspended in the air from the arrow while still possibly alive. The former is a necessary evil, the latter is gross torture.

[Donella]

Bottom line is that no veterinarian should take joy and pleasure in killing an animal. Ever.

[Paks]

[QUOTE=vacation1;8179096]
I agree with PETA that trap-and-release is inhumane. So am I just like Lindsey? Euthanasia is not a trap that tears off a leg and an arrow through the brain, and then being suspended in the air from the arrow while still possibly alive. The former is a necessary evil, the latter is gross torture.[/QUOTE]Why is trap and release inhumane and if it is inhumane is it inhumane to allow any animal (fox, deer, etc) to remain alive when they won’t have access to regular medical care, food, shelter from the elements and predators and generally don’t die peacefully of old age? Should we trap and euthanize all feral animals to save them from the hazards of living in the wild?

[Justa_Bob]

[QUOTE=Paks;8179433]
Why is trap and release inhumane and if it is inhumane is it inhumane to allow any animal (fox, deer, etc) to remain alive when they won’t have access to regular medical care, food, shelter from the elements and predators and generally don’t die peacefully of old age? Should we trap and euthanize all feral animals to save them from the hazards of living in the wild?[/QUOTE]

Release where? It is incredibly cruel to do this. Animals are territorial and the local Audubon Society wildlife rescue group lists one of the no-nos is to trap and release an animal. It means death to the animal because it’s entering another animal’s territory, it does not know the lay of the land, where to find food and water (if there is any).

Also trapping in incredible stressful to an animal and results in loss of fitness and health.

Capture and release - two very stressful whammies.

We only like it because WE think it’s humane. It is not humane. It’s a fantasy.

[mswillie]

@Justa Bob;8179613

Release where? It is incredibly cruel to do this. Animals are territorial and the local Audubon Society wildlife rescue group lists one of the no-nos is to trap and release an animal. It means death to the animal because it’s entering another animal’s territory, it does not know the lay of the land, where to find food and water (if there is any).

I assumed that the trap and release meant the TNR program for feral cats. Trap, neuter, and release back to where they were. It keeps the colonies stable but drastically reduces the number of offspring.

[Paks]

[QUOTE=Justa Bob;8179613]
Release where? It is incredibly cruel to do this. Animals are territorial and the local Audubon Society wildlife rescue group lists one of the no-nos is to trap and release an animal. It means death to the animal because it’s entering another animal’s territory, it does not know the lay of the land, where to find food and water (if there is any).

Also trapping in incredible stressful to an animal and results in loss of fitness and health.

Capture and release - two very stressful whammies.

We only like it because WE think it’s humane. It is not humane. It’s a fantasy.[/QUOTE]They release them where they were found in the first place. So none of your comments about the stress of release are really valid. They do know the lay of the land and where to find food and water which is why they were there in the first place.

Now in a case where they can’t release them in the same location they look for farms that need barn cats and rehome them there. And there is a definite procedure to do that to insure the cats stay around

[Justa_Bob]

Apologies. What a dunce. You are all correct about feral capture / release and my post being all wrong. I thought it was not posted (thought cancel was selected). The post only applies to wildlife released in a different location.

[D_BaldStockings]

While there are risks, 'releasing to the wild is exactly what the game bird (Pheasant and Quail) raisers do every year and many do survive not only the hunting season but the following winter.

And it was how they reintroduced the wolves to Yellowstone.

[vacation1]

[QUOTE=Paks;8179433]
Why is trap and release inhumane and if it is inhumane is it inhumane to allow any animal (fox, deer, etc) to remain alive when they won’t have access to regular medical care, food, shelter from the elements and predators and generally don’t die peacefully of old age? Should we trap and euthanize all feral animals to save them from the hazards of living in the wild?[/QUOTE]

Don’t be ridiculous. Foxes and deer can’t be feral, they’re wild animals. Cats are domesticated animals and one of only two animals which will truly partner with us on an even basis. They are historically and reasonably subject to humane considerations in a way wild animals and livestock are not.

I’ve noticed there’s a link between TNR and no-kill with dogs. The emphasis seems to be on the prolongation of breathing, no matter how torturous the physical, emotional and mental life of the breathing animal, and no matter how this approach to animal control and humane conduct affects the future of animals. TNR colonies notoriously do not dwindle; their numbers are constant or growing because their presence encourages people to dump cats.

[Paks]

[QUOTE=vacation1;8180402]
Don’t be ridiculous. Foxes and deer can’t be feral, they’re wild animals. Cats are domesticated animals and one of only two animals which will truly partner with us on an even basis. They are historically and reasonably subject to humane considerations in a way wild animals and livestock are not.

I’ve noticed there’s a link between TNR and no-kill with dogs. The emphasis seems to be on the prolongation of breathing, no matter how torturous the physical, emotional and mental life of the breathing animal, and no matter how this approach to animal control and humane conduct affects the future of animals. TNR colonies notoriously do not dwindle; their numbers are constant or growing because their presence encourages people to dump cats.[/QUOTE]

LOL Okay please in the future look up the definition of a word before you use it. I have a broke rib right now and laughing really hurts. From Merriam Webster

Full Definition of FERAL

1
: of, relating to, or suggestive of a wild beast <feral teeth> <feral instincts>
2
a : not domesticated or cultivated : wild
b : having escaped from domestication and become wild <feral cats>
— feral noun

Feral means wild

I’d have to know what you mean by “truly partner” to counter that. But I’m sure find you lots of counter examples they do have guide miniature horses after all.

Just because a cat a cat is outside doesn’t mean every breath is tortuous for it. My feral are often laying out in the sun soaking up the rays. Do you really think they would be better off dead.

You might want to check this out

http://www.alleycat.org/strayorferal?gclid=CLyMzKSE-8UCFROTfgoddDwA8A

specifically strays Will probably be dirty or disheveled

Ferals Will probably have a clean, well-kept coat.

Ferals do quite well and frankly the biggest danger to their well being is PETA they are also a danger to the strays since they tend to kill first ask questions later.

Your last sentence shows how little you know about cats. Ferals live in colonies that are territorial and it is very unusual for them to welcome new members. Strays that are dumped end up fending for themselves.

[Graymaresrule]

[QUOTE=vacation1;8179096]
I agree with PETA that trap-and-release is inhumane. So am I just like Lindsey? Euthanasia is not a trap that tears off a leg and an arrow through the brain, and then being suspended in the air from the arrow while still possibly alive. The former is a necessary evil, the latter is gross torture.[/QUOTE]

I have 2 TNR cats and will probably be getting two more in a few days. They live in my hay barn with my other four cats. They seem to have a pretty darn good life.

I can’t touch them but they do know the call “CAT FOOD!”

[Liberty]

An Austin County grand jury has decided the young veterinarian who boasted of shooting and killing a cat with a bow and arrow will not be charged with animal cruelty:
http://www.theeagle.com/news/local/update-austin-county-grand-jury-no-bills-veterinarian-who-posted/article_ba3578ee-1a7f-11e5-b8bd-bf40649ca3bf.html

There is still an opportunity to weigh in with the Texas Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners to urge them to revoke her license to practice veterinary medicine. You can download the official complaint form here: http://www.veterinary.texas.gov/Complaints.php

You can also write the Board directly
Physical & Mailing Address:
333 Guadalupe Street
Suite 3- 810
Austin, Texas 78701
Main Phone 512-305-7555
Main Fax 512-305-7556
Enforcement Fax 512-936-0870
HR/Legal Fax 512-305-7574
Agency Email: vet.board@veterinary.texas.gov

[Fred]

I’m stunned by the jury’s decision.
No proof???

:no:

[Kat_Renee]

How in the heck?! I am in disbelief…