Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

[Marla_100]

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[Toblersmom]

@BigMama1

That’s precisely why I live in a place with common sense gun control legislation - so that getting shot in my home, or at the movies, or at Walmart isn’t commonplace. Statistically speaking, having a gun for “protection” increases the likelihood of an innocent person getting shot. Look up the stats.

I never said that people should routinely keep and carry guns in the unlikely (for most) event that they found themselves in a situation that deadly force was needed to protect themselves. Your statement “Defending yourself does not have to mean shooting someone. Those of you who take the idea of killing another human being so casually seem dangerous to me.” Implied that defense with fatal force was a casual, generally unnecessary, action, and that there are routinely and normally non-fatal options for such defense. You gave no implication that you felt that there were situations that could be exceptions, and people that could imagine themselves (accurately, not in some paranoid fantasy) being in a situation where they might need such defense are “dangerous.”

[JustTheTicket]

@Fiona_785

You know he could have been saying it over and over to himself as if he was saying “I had a good life, I had a good life, before I met her.”

I pictured him sort of mumbling it to himself as if he was just looking back at his life before she came in and caused all the chaos and if he’d only known then what he knows now about how she is… Maybe he even acted in self-defense, it’s totally possible. I guess her reputation well is that she apparently can be extremely manipulative—obviously that doesn’t mean I think she should have been shot!!— but god knows the situation that really went down in that house that lead to her being the one shot…

Honestly we have no idea at this point but it’s just another perspective for the case.

I’m guessing he was saying “I had a good life” because he obviously knew he just shot someone, didn’t know if she was going to live or not and assumed he was about to spend a very long time in jail. Like “it’s over for me now, but it was good while it lasted”.

[sunkistbey]

My mother, who retired from the Detroit Police, always told me that if you’re going to shoot someone, make sure you kill them. Don’t screw around when you’re defending your life or the lives around you. It’s not a decision that will ever be taken lightly.

[SonnysMom]

@ladyj79 Do you have your PM turned off or are you one of the people that it doesn’t work? I want to send you a PM.

[SonnysMom]

@LexInVA

His name is Robert, he’s from Livingston like she is, and that’s about all there is. From what I gather, [edit]. Follows her around and does her bidding, handling all the man-work as she does her Dressage. They have been together for many lunar rotation cycles, possibly a decade’s worth or more. I would even go so far as to say they could have been together since her HS days, though at the very least, her early adult years, given their shared hometown. His available history, beyond court records, is about as blank and time-gapped as hers is, so I’m guessing she possibly did the same thing with him as she did for herself or he’s just been a criminal deviant involved in unsavory things or otherwise under-the-radar, working whatever whenever, due to his record. About the only thing of note is that he went missing from their rural dwelling in NC for an undisclosed period in late 2017. Obviously, he turned up again, but the fact that he was reported missing and then nobody said “Hey, he’s been found!” kinda makes you scratch your butt and ponder what really happened.

Per a post on her FB page his name is Robert Guy Goodwin.

[Mardi]

@Trekkie

Our current cultural thirst for superficial reality TV complete with gaudy rich pseudo celebrities, high drama for all to see and a reality TV mafioso style President illustrates just how out of touch with “normal” middle class values the world of horse sport has become.

I watch Real Housewives shows, 90 Day Fiance, Below Deck, The Bachelor and the Bachelorette.
I also watch men’s World Cup soccer, the Super Bowl, MLB World Series, and NHL’s Stanley Cup, which also feature drama and “gaudy rich pseudo celebrities”.
I watch Little League World Series, which is much more fun to watch than MLB.
I watch non-racing equestrian sports, sponsor classes at horse shows, and cheer on fellow riders.
I also support our president.
My middle class values are just fine, thank you, and I had nothing to do with any shooting, mass or otherwise.

[Angela_Freda]

@Marla 100

The GMA segment showed photos of MB looking like a red faced, red nosed drunk. I’ve also wondered if he had a problem

with impulse control and anger. Especially if he’s a mean drunk. All logic goes out the window when you make them mad.

If he even is/was a drunk.
My face and neck get blazing red, and hot, when riding in summer, especially when its humid.
I have not had an alcoholic beverage in over 16 years.

[Mardi]

@Angela Freda

So who deleted all of it? If she’s been shot point blank twice in the chest… is she really on Facebook scrubbing her page?
And what does that say, if one is deleting all that? Hard to say it wasn’t what it looked like if, while recovering from being blasted twice, point blank in the chest, you had the energy and motivation to delete it all.

I assumed it was done under the direction of her attorney.

[Mardi]

@Joanne

I didn’t see this mentioned:

Michael Barisone is on the Safe Sport suspension list:

https://www.usef.org/compete/resources-forms/rules-regulations/safe-sport-sanctions

Interesting. The SS decision was just made on August 9.

[Claddagh]

@Mardi

I assumed it was done under the direction of her attorney.

Possibly. But doesn’t it seem even a little like suppression of evidence to remove all social media posts that formerly had been public? What are they trying to hide?

However, law enforcement can gain access to deleted FB posts when the general public cannot. Even if she completely closes her FB, the content doesn’t go away for 90 days so law enforcement can still gain access. If there is something relevant there, it will be found.

The plot thickens.

[Brown_Derby]

I felt the GMA segment was sympathetic towards LK, which I guess was predictable considering other current events. (My gosh, that show–who listens to that drivel?)

Hey, does anyone remember Pam Kaichen, the serial bank robber who taught at Lendon’s? That story also made all the a.m. blasts. She’s out of jail now, using several identities [edit]. The new dressage queen basics I guess.

[rothmpp]

@Manahmanah

Michael does not do cheap anything

I’ve gotta second this.

[miss_machine]

Who ever said this case has up to five years to be investigated is out of touch. There is no statue of limitations in this situation and even Chicago doesn’t allow cases to go on for five years…

This will have one hell of a civil case.

[iridedressage]

@Mardi

I assumed it was done under the direction of her attorney.

The police probably did it to keep the public from seeing and messing with evidence.

[farmpony84]

@Mardi

I assumed it was done under the direction of her attorney.

I would guess the police department had that page frozen and pulled or “hidden” by facebook. It would be part of their investigation. Does Barisone have a page? I’d be curious if his page was also pulled? (If he has one).

[Raincityrider]

@Marla 100

The GMA segment showed photos of MB looking like a red faced, red nosed drunk. I’ve also wondered if he had a problem

with impulse control and anger. Especially if he’s a mean drunk. All logic goes out the window when you make them mad.

…many fair skinned people suffer from Rosacea (red and swollen skin) which is made worse by sun exposure. Irritated skin does not necessarily equal mean drunk. It doesn’t rule it out either but no one just looks like a mean drunk based on skin color.

[iridedressage]

@farmpony84

I would guess the police department had that page frozen and pulled or “hidden” by facebook. It would be part of their investigation. Does Barisone have a page? I’d be curious if his page was also pulled? (If he has one).

He had a business page on FB and a website. From what I hear, both have been taken down.

[rothmpp]

@farmpony84

I would guess the police department had that page frozen and pulled or “hidden” by facebook. It would be part of their investigation. Does Barisone have a page? I’d be curious if his page was also pulled? (If he has one).

He is not very FB active - his personal page is still up and visible to me, but I was already “friends” with him long before this happened. I don’t know how locked down it might be to people who were not already “friends”.

His Barisone Dressage website says “under construction” but I have not looked at that for a long time to know if that is a recent change or if it was already being redesigned.

As far as LK’s facebook - it’s a little… barn door open, horses long gone. There has to be hundreds, if not thousands, of people who screenshot all of her thinly veiled accusations and threats.

[merrygoround]

@Denali6298

I think it’s appropriate for someone to be suspended if they have been charged with murder. I don’t see it as a CYA at all. That’s typically what happens in other professions and in other sports.

To my knowledge he has not been charged.