Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

[tryintogethere]

@ake987

It’s difficult to discern whether she has made enough enemies that someone made that account or if she’s dumb and delusional enough to do it herself. I could believe either. Halfway bronzed? Several posts with assertions of being shot twice?

I would count on it being her!!!

[Sticky_Situation]

@ake987

It’s difficult to discern whether she has made enough enemies that someone made that account or if she’s dumb and delusional enough to do it herself. I could believe either. Halfway bronzed? Several posts with assertions of being shot twice?

Seeing as the account was made a couple years ago and the other post the account made was a while ago, from a new dressage rider singing MB’s praises … it’s legit.

[MHM]

Supernatural, check your PMs.

[catzndogz22]

@La-LaPopRider

Another thing- do you really not think we don’t know whose gun he used? We live there. Or, did anyway.

How did he get a hold of your gun?

[supernatural]

@catzndogz22

How did he get a hold of your gun?

Yes. Do Tell.

[MeisterMagnolia]

@La-LaPopRider

Without ANY provocation. Fact.

La-LaPopRider, you lost me at “Hello.” No provocation, huh. Sure, I believe you. What a victim you are!

[catzndogz22]

@clanter

just from what was reported in the news and what was disclosed in the hearing to me the charge would/should fall into this Heat of passion death as a result of reasonable provocation…at least to me it appears to check all four requirements without a question

I have no legal training whatsoever, but I was always of the understanding that manslaughter was applied to accidental death situations, even if it was a crime of passion. However in this case the victim didn’t die, so wouldn’t it be assault with a deadly weapon?

[Maude]

@Marla 100

I question if provocation/passion would even be appropriate here if it can be shown he has a history of angry temper problems.

Anger management is often a court ordered part of sentencing but in many cases it does not erase punishment for a crime.

Just like in road rage shootings, and we have quite a few in my area, it does NOT matter that someone did something to
make the ‘rager’ mad , if the angered person shoots the other person, they are charged with that crime. No excuses.

You simply cannot solve a disagreement with a gun and shooting someone. What’s so hard to understand here?

Is it just me or does anyone else see that this poster is a friend or relative of LK? Or maybe just a girl crush?

[mswillie]

@catzndogz22

I have no legal training whatsoever, but I was always of the understanding that manslaughter was applied to accidental death situations, even if it was a crime of passion. However in this case the victim didn’t die, so wouldn’t it be assault with a deadly weapon?

I was thinking the same thing. I’ve read a lot about manslaughter, murder, etc but since no one was killed I wondered what the charges might be.

[BigMama1]

@Maude

Is it just me or does anyone else see that this poster is a friend or relative of LK? Or maybe just a girl crush?

No. I think that poster is 100% correct in her assessment that none of this provocation is reasonable grounds for pulling out a gun and shooting someone.

[Sticky_Situation]

@BigMama1

No. I think that poster is 100% correct in her assessment that none of this provocation is reasonable grounds for pulling out a gun and shooting someone.

I do agree with this.

I just have doubts that the incident was truly ‘unprovoked’ like last night’s houseguest claimed, and I think that all the cryptic social media ranting and seemingly contradictory claims will do her no favors if this does go to trial.

[eggbutt]

The question still remains, and always will, if there was such danger coming from MB, why not move or get restraining orders rather than continuing to poke the bear by calling Child Protective Services with false allegations?? I wonder what LK actually thought the outcome would be from all her harassment and threats? It is a very sad and troubling situation.

[DMK]

@eggbutt

The question still remains, and always will, if there was such danger coming from MB, why not move or get restraining orders rather than continuing to poke the bear by calling Child Protective Services with false allegations?? I wonder what LK actually thought the outcome would be from all her harassment and threats? It is a very sad and troubling situation.

I don’t know that you can expect rational actions and choices from someone who seems to have such a limited history with them.

[Wilbury_Pie]

@eggbutt

The question still remains, and always will, if there was such danger coming from MB, why not move or get restraining orders rather than continuing to poke the bear by calling Child Protective Services with false allegations?? I wonder what LK actually thought the outcome would be from all her harassment and threats? It is a very sad and troubling situation.

I wonder about the circumstances of the actual shooting, which I guess will only come out if there is a trial. Who brought the gun to the scene, and who owned it? Even if he owned a pink gun, maybe it was stored in the house that she was inhabiting, and she brought it to the scene herself. It’s entirely possible that LK pulled the gun out in one of her seemingly well known “episodes”, and that there was a tussle. At this point, there are two witnesses who both had it in for MB, and who both seem to have difficulty functioning (i.e. earning a living, getting along with others, etc.) in society. Clearly her social media posts of late confirm that she is [edit].

I do think actual forensics will be important here. I’m hoping he has the funds to pay for experts to help him in his defence. Nobody deserves to be shot, but clearly this is a complicated situation with a lot of “he said, she said”. When people have guns in their houses, there will be situations like this. Unfortunately.

[Sparrowette]

A Fable:

Once upon a time, there was a wolf and a bear. The bear lived with his ladybear and her cubs, and they lived on berries and whatever they could find, not intruding on others. They lived happily this way for many years.

Then one day, a wolf moved into his cave.

The wolf had a stick. She started poking the bear with the stick, while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”

The bear didn’t like being poked with the stick, so he tried to move away from her. He went to live in another small cave nearby, but where he could still take care of his ladybear and her cubs.

Many times, the bear asked for help from other bears. “Please help me! This wolf keeps poking me with that stick! She won’t stop!!” Other bears said “We’ll go talk to her.” And they did.

But the wolf kept poking with the stick while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”. She kept on poking, poking and poking while crying out, and out and out.

It continued this way for months. And the bear kept asking for help. Other bears still did not help, they just tried to reason with the wolf over and over and over. But she kept on, and on, and on, poking with a stick while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”.

Some of the wolf’s friends told her, “You don’t have to be afraid. Come to live with us here! We will keep you safe!” But the wolf said “No, I’ll stay here.” And kept on poking the bear with a stick while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”

Finally, the wolf started poking her stick at the bear cubs. She poked the cubs that the bear loved. He had told his ladybear that he would help her take care of the cubs and protect them, and here was this wolf, poking them with a stick.

And finally,

the bear thought,

“Yes. I DO want to hurt her.”

[eggbutt]

@Wilbury Pie

I wonder about the circumstances of the actual shooting, which I guess will only come out if there is a trial. Who brought the gun to the scene, and who owned it? Even if he owned a pink gun, maybe it was stored in the house that she was inhabiting, and she brought it to the scene herself. It’s entirely possible that LK pulled the gun out in one of her seemingly well known “episodes”, and that there was a tussle. At this point, there are two witnesses who both had it in for MB, and who both seem to have difficulty functioning (i.e. earning a living, getting along with others, etc.) in society. Clearly her social media posts of late confirm that she is unhinged.

I do think actual forensics will be important here. I’m hoping he has the funds to pay for experts to help him in his defence. Nobody deserves to be shot, but clearly this is a complicated situation with a lot of “he said, she said”. When people have guns in their houses, there will be situations like this. Unfortunately.

I think there are many prepared to help MB financially for his defense if necessary.

[eggbutt]

@Sparrowette

A Fable:

Once upon a time, there was a wolf and a bear. The bear lived with his ladybear and her cubs, and they lived on berries and whatever they could find, not intruding on others. They lived happily this way for many years.

Then one day, a wolf moved into his cave.

The wolf had a stick. She started poking the bear with the stick, while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”

The bear didn’t like being poked with the stick, so he tried to move away from her. He went to live in another small cave nearby, but where he could still take care of his ladybear and her cubs.

Many times, the bear asked for help from other bears. “Please help me! This wolf keeps poking me with that stick! She won’t stop!!” Other bears said “We’ll go talk to her.” And they did.

But the wolf kept poking with the stick while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”. She kept on poking, poking and poking while crying out, and out and out.

It continued this way for months. And the bear kept asking for help. Other bears still did not help, they just tried to reason with the wolf over and over and over. But she kept on, and on, and on, poking with a stick while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”.

Some of the wolf’s friends told her, “You don’t have to be afraid. Come to live with us here! We will keep you safe!” But the wolf said “No, I’ll stay here.” And kept on poking the bear with a stick while crying out “I’M SO AFRAID OF THIS BEAR!! THIS BEAR WANTS TO HURT ME!!!”

Finally, the wolf started poking her stick at the bear cubs. She poked the cubs that the bear loved. He had told his ladybear that he would help her take care of the cubs and protect them, and here was this wolf, poking them with a stick.

And finally,

the bear thought,

“Yes. I DO want to hurt her.”

AMEN!

[supernatural]

Count me in. I’ll donate to his defense.

[La-LaPopRider]

@angelssix

I would like to point out that after I have read the entire thred here, looked at this woman’s facebook page and looked at the court records link, it appears to this former p.o. that there was some serious issues on this woman’s behalf that were creating problems for others around her. Having only been in the horse world for 7 or so years now, (I spent 20 in the mil) I am amazed at the level of crazy that some people with/near horses are. I had some close ties to the people who rode hunters in SoPines back in the day, and the stories they would tell…
I have been around multiple barns (three I boarded at) and I have seen more crazy there than working as a police officer. It wasn’t until just recently I finally found a trainer and barn that aren’t full of crazy people. Please understand, by crazy I mean that to be overly anxious/wild/and or/ really nuts. So please don’t take it the wrong way.
The woman that was shot would have been on my radar as a police officer a long time ago with that type of drama she was spouting on Facebook and her prior police record. I know a lot of people that do that sort of thing for attention and there are plenty of stories like hers that end up with a funeral.
That being said, I do hope she recovers, but I also hope she gets some counseling when all is said and done.

A former po would have read the dispositions on the 2003 (16 yrs ago but whose counting) charges. Fail. It’s not that difficult. The acquittal records are public. Was jumped by 7 people at a bar Bc… when you’re 22 that kinda stuff happens. Didn’t realize you were fault free in life. Anyway, my criminal record was clean enough to register two weapons in NC Bc it is SQEAKY CLEAN. As an “ex po” u should know, anyone can be arrested at any time for any reason. Courts decide guilt or innocence. Guess you’ll have to judge me on fb page now, since not one person bothered to read the actual outcomes of my 16-14 yr ago arrests.

My fb page is mine & I can be as silly or serious as I want … my actual friends know who I am. As do my horses. Thanks for your lovely opinion though.

[La-LaPopRider]

@Wilbury Pie

I wonder about the circumstances of the actual shooting, which I guess will only come out if there is a trial. Who brought the gun to the scene, and who owned it? Even if he owned a pink gun, maybe it was stored in the house that she was inhabiting, and she brought it to the scene herself. It’s entirely possible that LK pulled the gun out in one of her seemingly well known “episodes”, and that there was a tussle. At this point, there are two witnesses who both had it in for MB, and who both seem to have difficulty functioning (i.e. earning a living, getting along with others, etc.) in society. Clearly her social media posts of late confirm that she is unhinged.

I do think actual forensics will be important here. I’m hoping he has the funds to pay for experts to help him in his defence. Nobody deserves to be shot, but clearly this is a complicated situation with a lot of “he said, she said”. When people have guns in their houses, there will be situations like this. Unfortunately.

Forensics are unnecessary. We know who gave mb the gun. She’s next to be arrested. Or, that’s the plan.
This case is cut and dried. I was shot in the middle of the day for NO reason. MB’s gf didn’t want us there- too bad. We don’t conduct biz w her. She wanted that house for herself ever Since she broke up mb and vk marriage. More to the story of course, but my attorneys prefer I say little as possible. Please, judge people only when YOU become perfect.