WOW! New Info in Barisone-Kanarek Saga

[La-LaPopRider]

@eggbutt

How about all the discovery? How about his mention of the illegal recordings? 19,000 pages of evidence from LK’s social media alone! Holy cow!!! The mention of LK and RG contacting SS? The mention that the CPS accusations were unfounded? The thought the attorney expects an acquittal (or did I misread that)? Gosh, all that sounds new to me!!

Wait… So, to be clear, you think a defense attorney is going to say “My client is GUILTY!” Nothing in his fictitious statements are new. Except, perhaps, the irony of it. Defense attorney falsely claims victim has made false claims. Ironic. And… incidentally, the same exact TACTIC used by every other defense attorney in the land of defense attorneys.
1.) I have always maintained the fact- I reported MB & others to SafeSport. (Nothing new.)
2.) I have always maintained the fact- I have video & audios. (Nothing new.)
3.) You have no idea who contacted CPS. (Nothing new.)
4.) Attorneys who are so convinced their client is “not guilty,” doesn’t waive a speedy trial. (Nothing new.)

What IS “new,” exactly??? Please share with the class.

[La-LaPopRider]

@Omgitsme

It is an interesting strategy. Perhaps showboating in hopes charges are dropped or lessened?
Maybe these magical tapes which no one except her sycophants have heard will be the nail in her coffin?

*I am going to go ahead and inform everyone I had back surgery three weeks ago and I’m still quite medicated. If I start posting nonsensical words just throw water at me and tell me to go to bed.

**ETA for those of you who don’t seem to comprehend: I am asking you to excuse me if I post something that is not a word or is horribly misspelled. I am not saying I will delete former posts that may have been just too cruel for someone’s fragile ego and claim the drugs made me do it.

Then… I should probably release them now.

PS- referencing “nails in a coffin,” to a survivor of two point blank range GSW to the chest… is in poor taste at best. Or, are you having difficulty comprehending that? Anything which references my death, again… (& beginning with yours) WILL be reported. Not just here, either.

[La-LaPopRider]

@xQHDQ

Um, there was a NEW court appearance. NEW. A lot of new info in both the Chronicle report and the OP-posted report. Doesn’t matter if it’s expected info. It’s still a NEW development. If you don’t think it’s new, you can ignore this thread.

It was a planned court appearance. Planned. Announced in the PREVIOUS COTH report from the PREVIOUS court hearing. Previous. Not new. If you think it’s new, you can re-read the last reports where March 2nd was explicitly mentioned as being the NEXT court date- not a NEW one. Next. New. Two different words. If you don’t think they’re different words, hooked on phonics???

[La-LaPopRider]

@eggbutt

Read the interview again YD. The judge initially said the CPS issue was inadmissible until Belankis offer more info and the judge reversed his thoughts.

Seems you missed the point of the article that indicates LK is not the innocent victim she’s always claimed to be. (Insert disclaimer that no one deserves to be shot). Obviously we now know “others” have reported HER to SS, MB had an investigator involved BEFORE the shooting, LK’s volatile social media looks like it all WILL be allowed and they are only partially through the data obtained from her and RG’s phones, computers, audio files, etc.

I am still fascinated at your very quick defense of LK and thinly veiled attempt to say there is no there there regarding this article. I don’t think you are Lauren, but you sure are very close to her as far as passionate defense.

Riiiiight. Bc… Nancy Jaffer said so? Got it! FYI- you have exactly zero idea of what will or will not be admissible. Nor do you have the slightest clue of what was actually stated IN THE COURT ROOM. Jaffer was there to specifically note Balinkas’ words. Nothing more. I’d know. The real court hearing - in its entirety - was read to me. Not by Nancy so & so of “covering equestrian news since X, y or Z.” Additionally, in the real media coverage, my attorneys gave statements. Seems you decidedly chose the one article to display, whose “journalist” (unlike almost every other media outlet there is) did NOT reach out to the victims attorneys for comment. Again, I’d know. Bc… in every other article covering this court date - in which NO PLEA was offered, my attorneys DID respond to request for comment. Ya must have missed all of those one’s, huh? Convenient. Eye roll… on a loop.

[MorganSercu]

@La-LaPopRider

Then… I should probably release them now.

PS- referencing “nails in a coffin,” to a survivor of two point blank range GSW to the chest… is in poor taste at best. Or, are you having difficulty comprehending that? Anything which references my death, again… (& beginning with yours) WILL be reported. Not just here, either.

QFP.

Note: Use of common idiom is now reportable to mods and unnamed others. Presumably attorneys.

[cutter99]

Who said Beetlejuice???

[SillyHorse]

Unreal. Some people need to step away from the keyboard. Well, one person, anyway.

[endlessclimb]

@La-LaPopRider

Ive deleted zero posts. Period. Further, I find it strange Eggbutt thinks I have stopped posting on my social media pages. Just because I’ve made sure no one aside from friends & the DA can see them, doesn’t mean I have stopped posting or responding.
FYI- all it takes is a subpoena to get any & all fb (or, other SM posts/exchanges) - deleted or not. Though, again, zero posts have been deleted. Who would have the time for that?? Not me! Then again, just when I assume people have lives, Eggbutt has started another thread here! Surprise! Not really.

@La-LaPopRider

Yes. You do seem to have trouble staying on topic. Even topics, you yourself started. Strange. Not to mention, a tiny bit obsessive- no?

@La-LaPopRider

Thank god defense attorneys tell the truth. Cough, cough.

@La-LaPopRider

So… Now there was “a door?” How about you make up the story as you go along… like you’ve been doing since day 1? Was it a haunted door? Please… continue your story! I’m in suspense!

@La-LaPopRider

Let’s be real. They don’t GAF. Do you think they’re unaware of this entire situation? Here’s what you do: Follow the canal on the on the trail riding side in DR. Do this on a Tuesday, weds, thurs, Fri & sat. With 4 horses to train, back to back, there’s a fairly GOOD chance you’ll see what exists IRL. Just shout out at us & wave hi! Or… watch tv. It’s of zero consequence to me. Ciao!

@La-LaPopRider

EXACTLY! Eggbutt doesn’t seem to comprehend how the law works & I must admit, I find her morbid obsession with me to me to go far beyond victim shaming, way before this point. Now, it’s just over the top in weirdness. Oh well. Sad for her.

@La-LaPopRider

Wait… So, to be clear, you think a defense attorney is going to say “My client is GUILTY!” Nothing in his fictitious statements are new. Except, perhaps, the irony of it. Defense attorney falsely claims victim has made false claims. Ironic. And… incidentally, the same exact TACTIC used by every other defense attorney in the land of defense attorneys.
1.) I have always maintained the fact- I reported MB & others to SafeSport. (Nothing new.)
2.) I have always maintained the fact- I have video & audios. (Nothing new.)
3.) You have no idea who contacted CPS. (Nothing new.)
4.) Attorneys who are so convinced their client is “not guilty,” doesn’t waive a speedy trial. (Nothing new.)

What IS “new,” exactly??? Please share with the class.

@La-LaPopRider

Then… I should probably release them now.

PS- referencing “nails in a coffin,” to a survivor of two point blank range GSW to the chest… is in poor taste at best. Or, are you having difficulty comprehending that? Anything which references my death, again… (& beginning with yours) WILL be reported. Not just here, either.

Me here: LOLOLOL on the last bit…

@La-LaPopRider

It was a planned court appearance. Planned. Announced in the PREVIOUS COTH report from the PREVIOUS court hearing. Previous. Not new. If you think it’s new, you can re-read the last reports where March 2nd was explicitly mentioned as being the NEXT court date- not a NEW one. Next. New. Two different words. If you don’t think they’re different words, hooked on phonics???

@La-LaPopRider

Riiiiight. Bc… Nancy Jaffer said so? Got it! FYI- you have exactly zero idea of what will or will not be admissible. Nor do you have the slightest clue of what was actually stated IN THE COURT ROOM. Jaffer was there to specifically note Balinkas’ words. Nothing more. I’d know. The real court hearing - in its entirety - was read to me. Not by Nancy so & so of “covering equestrian news since X, y or Z.” Additionally, in the real media coverage, my attorneys gave statements. Seems you decidedly chose the one article to display, whose “journalist” (unlike almost every other media outlet there is) did NOT reach out to the victims attorneys for comment. Again, I’d know. Bc… in every other article covering this court date - in which NO PLEA was offered, my attorneys DID respond to request for comment. Ya must have missed all of those one’s, huh? Convenient. Eye roll… on a loop.

[Graymaresrule]

@La-LaPopRider

Wait… So, to be clear, you think a defense attorney is going to say “My client is GUILTY!” Nothing in his fictitious statements are new. Except, perhaps, the irony of it. Defense attorney falsely claims victim has made false claims. Ironic. And… incidentally, the same exact TACTIC used by every other defense attorney in the land of defense attorneys.

Well there is this gem from YOUR attorney in your civil suit
“Barisone shot his student at point-blank range and intended to kill her so whatever comes out of his mouth is not to be believed,” Nagel said. “He will pay the piper at some point. He will go to jail and he will pay in the civil suit. Whatever we hear from Barisone should be thrown into the wastebasket.” https://www.dailyrecord.com/story/news/morris/2020/03/02/long-valley-shooting-ex-olympian-michael-barisone-demands-recordings/4931898002/

[MorganSercu]

Plus this from the same article:

Recording or intercepting an in-person or phone conversation in New Jersey requires consent from at least one participating party.

Participating. Not eavesdropping or using a hidden recording device.

[Angela_Freda]

@MorganSercu

Plus this from the same article:

Participating. Not eavesdropping or using a hidden recording device.

Oops.

[Graymaresrule]

@MorganSercu

Plus this from the same article:

Participating. Not eavesdropping or using a hidden recording device.

I believe that depends on if there’s a reasonable expectation of privacy. Your bedroom is private, your barn aisle, probably not, the office? Maybe

[IdahoRider]

@Graymaresrule

I believe that depends on if there’s a reasonable expectation of privacy. Your bedroom is private, your barn aisle, probably not, the office? Maybe

If it is a private barn, posted as private property, there may be an expectation of privacy? A table in a McDonald’s, not so much.

Since the defense is talking about these recordings, I suspect that will try to use them to show a pattern of stalking on Lk’s part.
Sheilah

[Ambitious_Kate]

@IdahoRider

If it is a private barn, posted as private property, there may be an expectation of privacy? A table in a McDonald’s, not so much.

Since the defense is talking about these recordings, I suspect that will try to use them to show a pattern of stalking on Lk’s part.
Sheilah

No doubt just a small sample of things they have showing a pattern of stalking.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@IdahoRider

If it is a private barn, posted as private property, there may be an expectation of privacy? A table in a McDonald’s, not so much.

Since the defense is talking about these recordings, I suspect that will try to use them to show a pattern of stalking on Lk’s part.
Sheilah

Considering he was living in the barn and also had posted hours. I dont think LK is very bright, so I wouldnt think it too hard to gather a pattern of her stalking.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@soloudinhere

The problem is that the prosecution is not really required to prove premeditation. In New Jersey, they are only required to prove that the defendant did NOT commit the crime in the heat of passion, and that they knew their action could kill a person.

“A person is guilty of murder if he/she: (1) caused the victim’s death or serious bodily injury that then resulted in death; and (2) the defendant did so purposely or knowingly; and (3) did not act in the heat of passion resulting from a reasonable provocation.”

The same applies to attempted murder in the state of New Jersey.

The prosecution is required to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was not provoked or impassioned at the time of commission of the crime. I’m sure you can see where I’m going with this.

Probably required to prove there was a victim death, too.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@eggbutt

How about all the discovery? How about his mention of the illegal recordings? 19,000 pages of evidence from LK’s social media alone! Holy cow!!! The mention of LK and RG contacting SS? The mention that the CPS accusations were unfounded? The thought the attorney expects an acquittal (or did I misread that)? Gosh, all that sounds new to me!!

19,000 pages and counting. Apparently.

[MorganSercu]

@Graymaresrule

I believe that depends on if there’s a reasonable expectation of privacy. Your bedroom is private, your barn aisle, probably not, the office? Maybe

Does intent matter in NJ? Her stated intent was to record conversations to which she wasn’t a party and she was posting about installing recording devices all over the place. A place that she didn’t own, rent or lease. I doubt she had them solely trained on her horses’ stalls. Yeah, it’s one thing to have them in your room, or trained on your horse’s stall - it’s another to set them up elsewhere. She’s not the employer either. If someone were setting up surveillance equipment on MY property without MY permission and had those recording devices not trained on THEIR horse, I would want to bounce them. Take your animals, equipment, yourself and clear out.

I think HIS office in HIS business is very much private.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@eggbutt

He is supposed to be a master in this type of case so I would think he knows what he is doing. My question is why was Kirby Kanarek listening outside the door? How did she even know about it?

She was in court for the hearing, apparently. Interview was out in the hall, she stood nearby. This wa in the article.

[YankeeDuchess]

@IdahoRider

If it is a private barn, posted as private property, there may be an expectation of privacy? A table in a McDonald’s, not so much.

Since the defense is talking about these recordings, I suspect that will try to use them to show a pattern of stalking on Lk’s part.
Sheilah

I suspect the defense will work hard to try to prevent them from being admitted as evidence.