Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[trubandloki]

@FitzE

I’m sure they hoped to catch Tarshis saying something they could use against his own testimony or against MB somehow.

This is an interesting point that I had not thought of, thank you for bringing it up.

They were not just being rude and invasive and attempting to ruin their future civil case, they were being the only thing the Kanarek family seems to know how to do, scheming.

I can not be the only one who imagines living life that way would be exhausting. Darn, wouldn’t it be easier just to earn a real income? Even at her advanced age I would bet that Lauren Kanarek could make a good living doing what she did for a living in her 20s.

#jonathankanarek
#kirbykanarek
#laurenkanarek
#lalapoprider
#liars
#prooftheyareliars
#contempt

[eggbutt]

@trubandloki

Are you simply wanting to provide us with a good platform to show how wrong the Kanarek family was so you intentinoally ask questions so we can post that information?

Finally there is a perfect possible explanation why CH and HH behave as they do! They want us to be crystal clear to anyone lured to this forum how awful the Kanareks are!

Thank you @trubandloki for pointing out they may actually be wearing robes under their jogging suits after all!

[trubandloki]

@3PonyFarm

Maybe they should state they do not consent to recordings in every conversation.

I can so picture a conversation between Lauren Kanarek and someone willing to talk to her going something like this.

“Oh high (giggle, hi for the rest of us), so nice to see you again. I do not consent to being recorded. Did you see the last horse go? Wasn’t their test amazing? And the weather today is just so perfect for the horses and riders. I do not consent to being recorded. Have you tried the club sandwiches they have at the food tent? They are amazing. I highly recommend them. I do not consent to being recorded.”

[eggbutt]

Thank you. I believe in the folklore that cardinals are deceased loved ones coming to visit. The photo was taken from my front porch.

[trubandloki]

Wow, that is a great photo. Love it. Thank you for sharing it with us.

[MorganSercu]

I wish to gloat for a few minutes. The last two screen shots (Mr. Silver’s pleading) about SafeSport and child services.

2019:

That's a twist

Excellent question. How would MorganSercu know any information whatsoever contained in the SS report? Actually, that’s a better question for me to ask SS & direct them to this thread. Although, by all means, @MorganSercu please share!

That's a twist

Logical deduction. If Lauren isn’t lying, she didn’t call CPS. By her own admission, she called SS about the kids. They (unlike Lauren) actually take the welfare of kids seriously, as well as having a legal obligation to do so. Lauren also had a responsibility to call CPS if she truly was concerned, but Lauren chose not to do so - even anonymously. Lauren misused SS and CPS in her misguided quest. Whatever her goal was, it wasn’t to get shot. Funny how she was turning down offers of places…

2020:

Barisone Pleads Not Guilty

For crying out loud, Lauren said she didn’t call CPS. Everything she says is the truth. QED - she called SS. CPS showed up. They wouldn’t if someone didn’t clutch his/her pearls and wail, “Who will think of the children!?” Presumably pearl-studded cuff links exist, right? I can more readily imagine RG giving a tinkers’ dam about unrelated kids than Lauren Kanarek after reading what she has written through time. So perhaps Robert G. called CPS. I can see her using him as a cats’-paw.

Then scrolling down in the 2020 thread there is a lot of blather from someone who is no longer a member about how Lauren Kanarek couldn’t possibly have been involved with SS summoning child protective services.

[DownYonder]

@Knights_Mom

Without intending to be political I just wanted to point out that a certain party to a court matter was just fined $110,000 for failure to comply with providing documents for Discovery. Again, this post is NOT about who the person is BUT RATHER THE RESULT OF DEFIANCE OF A COURT ORDER.

Not to continue the political aspect - but Trump was a named defendant in that NY case. In the LK/MB/SGF/RC case, neither JK or KK are named defendants. Can those sorts of fines be levied against a third party who isn’t either plaintiff or defendant in a case? IOW, if the requests for contempt of court orders against JK/KK are granted by Weaver, what are the likely fines that may be levied against them? I assume they will be nowhere near that $110,000 amount, but will they be enough to make the K’s start cooperating a bit more with discovery? Or would they be just a “slap on the wrist”?

[Knights_Mom]

@DownYonder

@Knights_Mom

Without intending to be political I just wanted to point out that a certain party to a court matter was just fined $110,000 for failure to comply with providing documents for Discovery. Again, this post is NOT about who the person is BUT RATHER THE RESULT OF DEFIANCE OF A COURT ORDER.

Not to continue the political aspect - but Trump was a named defendant in that NY case. In the LK/MB/SGF/RC case, neither JK or KK are named defendants. Can those sorts of fines be levied against a third party who isn’t either plaintiff or defendant in a case? IOW, if the requests for contempt of court orders against JK/KK are granted by Weaver, what are the likely fines that may be levied against them? I assume they will be nowhere near that $110,000 amount, but will they be enough to make the K’s start cooperating a bit more with discovery? Or would they be just a “slap on the wrist”?

Anyone in violation of a court order can be charged with contempt for violating said order. They don’t need to be a plaintiff or defendant though they could be. I googled for examples this is the 1st that popped up.

Court Holds Non-Party in Contempt for Failing to Produce Documents in...

[MHM]

That’s a great and very useful idea. Thanks for sharing!

[erinmeri]

@CurrentlyHorseless

You must be gutted that the jury did not return a verdict of NG on all four counts, then.

Apparently LK was preparing to leave. It’s unfortunate that MB was not able to hold it together mentally long enough to let her leave without shooting her.

I am not personally invested, therefore I don’t know why you would think I would be “gutted” by anything.

I have stated before that I think the jury’s verdict was reasonable, and that given the dearth of evidence and the impeachment issues, I would not personally have been able to find him guilty. But I do think the trial painted a pretty clear picture of a tormented man who was driven to a mental break, so I understand the verdict reached.

And no, it isn’t clear that Lauren was planning to leave. It’s clear she was told she needed to. And that she was told she was being evicted.

[MHM]

@FitzE

Fellow boarders, instructors, other spectators at events, service providers, etc. Everyone should assume they are being recorded and for the purpose of that recording being used against them or someone else.

Wasn’t there a conversation on a previous thread about how nobody was very chatty around LK at the barn where she is now?

It will probably get even quieter there when this information comes out.

[MorganSercu]

@MHM

It will probably get even quieter there when this information comes out.

Nothing like a hard (social) freeze in Florida.

[DownYonder]

@Knights_Mom

Anyone in violation of a court order can be charged with contempt for violating said order.

Thanks, that is what I thought. I am curious though about how punitive the fines might be for JK/KK should they be determined to be in contempt. Maybe some miniscule amount like $1000@? Or could they be more substantial?

[Knights_Mom]

@MorganSercu

@MHM

It will probably get even quieter there when this information comes out.

Nothing like a hard (social) freeze in Florida.

And right in the middle of season too

[MHM]

@eggbutt

Regardless how much Lala bats her fluffy eyelashes and says in her best innocent little girl voice that so and so told her surreptitiously recording someone’s private conversations to blackmail and destroy their lives was okay, those texts, which there must be hundreds more even more damaging like the one with Finish the Bastard, are going to show the true intent of the Kanareks plan to destroy.

I wonder how MB’s lawyers will determine how much of this evidence to present to the jury?

There is probably an overabundance of it. Similar to the tens of thousands of pages of social media posts.

I’m guessing there must be a point where it turns into information overload, so I’m curious about how and where they draw that line.

[trubandloki]

That is an interesting question @MHM. With so much evidence in their favor, I am sure the legal team will spend quite a bit of time deciding which is best evidence to make their point.
I agree that overwhelming the jury with all the evidence would not be a positve.

[DownYonder]

@Angela_Freda

@CurrentlyHorseless

Because she wanted to move.

She didn’t WANT to move. But she knew she was going to HAVE to move, whether of her own volition or because of a formal eviction.

And she was determined to RUIN MB as much as possible before she left because he had rejected her.

Remember that old saying - “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”? She is the living embodiment of that phrase.

[Knights_Mom]

@DownYonder

@Angela_Freda

@CurrentlyHorseless

Because she wanted to move.

She didn’t WANT to move. But she knew she was going to HAVE to move, whether of her own volition or because of a formal eviction.

And she was determined to RUIN MB as much as possible before she left because he had rejected her.

Remember that old saying - “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”? She is the living embodiment of that phrase.

Also she knew that once she was gone from the premises her ability to continue her campaign would be greatly diminished.

[MHM]

@Knights_Mom

@MorganSercu

@MHM

It will probably get even quieter there when this information comes out.

Nothing like a hard (social) freeze in Florida.

And right in the middle of season too

I’m guessing the dressage event where they accosted Mr. Tarshis is probably an annual occurrence. I wonder if people will turn and run from the K clan if they turn up at the next one.

[eggbutt]

Well, it doesn’t sound as though many approach them as it is!