New filing on ecourts re MB

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

I miss the good old days of blocking. Now some posters delight in tagging others, which negates the ignore feature for that post. I won’t argue with pretend legal expert about anything.

When what is said can’t be argued or defended, they attack who said it. Typical.

Really?

I thought the ignore feature hid the posts, plus suppressed the notification through tagging?

Are you really claiming that by tagging someone, that negates the ignore instruction for that post?

[hut-ho78]

@smoofox

Those who constantly savor the phrase “pleasure of hate” and post it lovingly (or so it seems) to disparage conversations and concerns… seem to be indulging in exactly that.

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Ambitious_Kate

@CurrentlyHorseless

You think you’re making her look bad. But for most people, real life trumps SM. If there’s a disparity, your (g) diatribes just make you look like a grumpy hater.

But not for Lauren. For Lauren, SM is real life. Otherwise why are certain posters here? Still?

Most people understand the fakeness of SM and will base their assessments on their first hand experience of a person rather than what they’ve read on SM. If they know the person IRL and see them demonized on SM, most people will let the mud slinging inform their opinion of the mud slinger, not the target.

Sooo… LK’s antics on SM/YT and her insults, boasts, threats, promises and whining have helped others form an opinion of her… and not her targets. Thanks for clarifying.

You finally figured it out. The same way LK’s comments on SM have affected attitudes towards her is the same way my endless comments about her and her family, especially after she almost died affects attitudes towards all of us posting here. The internet lasts forever and nothing is really incognito.

One of my earliest posts in the first thread was to request we all mind our comments knowing the families and friends of all parties will be reading them.

The same bunch that goes after the Kanareks here go after others. It’s not about a noble calling to “warn” people, it’s simply entertainment to that bunch.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

Those who constantly savor the phrase “pleasure of hate” and post it lovingly (or so it seems) to disparage conversations and concerns… seem to be indulging in exactly that.

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Ambitious_Kate

@CurrentlyHorseless

You think you’re making her look bad. But for most people, real life trumps SM. If there’s a disparity, your (g) diatribes just make you look like a grumpy hater.

But not for Lauren. For Lauren, SM is real life. Otherwise why are certain posters here? Still?

Most people understand the fakeness of SM and will base their assessments on their first hand experience of a person rather than what they’ve read on SM. If they know the person IRL and see them demonized on SM, most people will let the mud slinging inform their opinion of the mud slinger, not the target.

Sooo… LK’s antics on SM/YT and her insults, boasts, threats, promises and whining have helped others form an opinion of her… and not her targets. Thanks for clarifying.

ETA: I do think it is inappropriate to drag the new dressage barn and trainer in to any of these conversations. Why can we not just leave them out of it? They have not ranted and raged and threatened and bullied and crowed and bragged… etc. etc.

Re bolded. Exactly! Insults, boasts and threats on SM definitely do more to inform an opinion of the source of the diatribe than the target.

How did you not always understand this?

[SoCoPony]

[Sdel]

So, translation: LK should be allowed to slander, libel, rant, rage, threaten, whatever, and no one should be able to say anything to warn her targets that may be otherwise unaware.

Ie: she shouldn’t have to face repercussions….

[eggbutt]

[SoCoPony]

CurrentlyHorseless

17m

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@CurrentlyHorseless

You think you’re making her look bad. But for most people, real life trumps SM. If there’s a disparity, your (g) diatribes just make you look like a grumpy hater.
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But not for Lauren. For Lauren, SM is real life. Otherwise why are certain posters here? Still?

Most people understand the fakeness of SM and will base their assessments on their first hand experience of a person rather than what they’ve read on SM. If they know the person IRL and see them demonized on SM, most people will let the mud slinging inform their opinion of the mud slinger, not the target.

*I want you CH to explain this, what you wrote and what I have in bold above, to the parents of all the teenagers that have commited suicide over SM.

Seems like to me that you have alot of explaining to do.*

[Sdel]

@SoCoPony

*I want you CH to explain this, what you wrote and what I have in bold above, to the parents of all the teenagers that have commited suicide over SM.

Seems like to me that you have alot of explaining to do.*

It also completely ignores reality. I mean, if what CH and HH we’re insinuating is how it actually works, then I dare say politics would be a lot more of a polite subject.

[CanteringCarrot]

Freals.

I get that some don’t like these threads and don’t approve of the content, so perhaps their goal is to get them locked, but there will always be another thread. After one closes, another is started just a short while later. So it’s sort of a pointless endeavor. If you need a breather, then step away like an adult instead of trying to aggravate everyone else.

My ignore feature was jacked up when I switched to the app, and it’s been entertaining to read certain posts again, but I think some are really getting too invested in this. I mean, I’m not going to tell you how to spend your time and energy, all I’m saying is that some tones have changed, and if you’ve had enough, just walk away. Or don’t, it doesn’t matter to me, I’m purely rambling off some thoughts here.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re bolded. Exactly! Insults, boasts and threats on SM definitely do more to inform an opinion of the source of the diatribe than the target.

How did you not always understand this?

Ummm… how did you miss my point - that you illustrated? That LK’s SM freakouts allow others to form an opinion of her based on her own words and behavior?? As in, the source of the diatribe is LK.
Her behavior on SM helps those who have never met her in real life form some opinions about her - which was, in many cases, backed up by her “performance” in court and on 48 Hrs. That is all on her. Major DUH.

How did you not always understand this?

I did not “finally figure it out.” I have understood all this a lot better than many seem to have - having dealt with a similar person who was intent on destroying all of us here. My friends, my home, my job. Finish the farm!! was her raison d’être. Fortunately, her heart’s desire did not come to be… and neither did LK’s. Her failed attempt came to a much sadder end, though.

Having gone through all that in the past - watching some defend LK’s abhorrent behavior is a very chilling case of deja vu.

I suspect that hut-ho and CH would have vociferously defended our version of LK as well - and called me, my co-workers and the boarders all meanies. Seeing as I do not “get it” and all. And they know better.

[CanteringCarrot]

Saying that most people understand the fakeness of social media is an interesting blanket statement, because I’m not sure whether or not that’s true. I mean, it certainly follows some things that LK said, in that she doesn’t take it so seriously and lies on SM (actually, she just takes it seriously when she wants to or could be of interest/benefit to her, IMO). It’s funny who is free to lie and who isn’t. Or who or what is taken seriously and who or what isn’t.

I think that people take SM into consideration and may take it quite seriously at times depending on the source and the content. SM is huge and people definitely take it seriously at times…for example, reviews of products or services, or even casual claims about x company. A lot of people rely heavily on social media when it comes to forming their opinions about something, whether it’s a person, place, or product. I will consider what I hear in social media and keep it in the back of my mind when I meet someone, but I also know I have to consider other things such as source and context. I don’t let it form my entire opinion and will also let real life experiences shape my opinion too. I know not everyone operates that way, it’d be foolish of me to assume that they do.

[Sdel]

@smoofox

how did you miss my point

I think the how has been obvious for a while. The previous posters are correct, the best course is to go back to a total shunning and continue on about our discussion as we see fit.

We need a disclaimer signature line….

[Ambitious_Kate]

Shun. Shunnnnnn

[KurPlexed]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It seems likely that LKs credentials as a boarder will be determined by her actual behavior as a boarder, and not by the continuing attempts to disparage her and get her blackballed.

Thankfully horse people have a wonderful way of reading people quickly. One glance at her SM page and the comments say more about her than anything the COTH can. It’s all right there for everyone to see. I don’t think anyone would look at her SM and think…“now there’s a balanced individual who I think would make a great addition to my barn.”

Perhaps some of the older trainers need to take advantage of what’s avail to them. Unfortunately it doesnt appear MB had done that. If he had, he may have been able to avoid all of this. I think that’s why people on the COTH keep her name front and center. They want to avoid this from happening again to someone else.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@KurPlexed

Perhaps some of the older trainers need to take advantage of what’s avail to them. Unfortunately it doesnt appear MB had done that. If he had, he may have been able to avoid all of this. I think that’s why people on the COTH keep her name front and center. They want to avoid this from happening again to someone else.

Well exactly. It’s horrible to think someone else might become her target, she threatens such often enough on SM. The more people who become aware of her the safer we all are from her, either as a BO, a trainer, or boarder. Or service professional.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@CurrentlyHorseless

seems likely that LKs credentials as a boarder will be determined by her actual behavior as a boarder, and not by the continuing attempts to disparage her and get her blackballed.

What credentials as a border?? Lauren has no credentisls as a boarder! Not after what she did AS A BOARDER. She tried to ruin the owner, his family, relationships, his busiess and his property out of jealousy.

Just because she’s behaving herself for the moment doesn’t make her safe to be around. IF she’s behaving herself. She has years and years of these threats and destructive actions behind her. She doesn’t deserve to be welcome anywhere after what she’s done to michael barisone and others. She should be blackballed where ever she goes. What are you saying, oh, poor little Lauren, she’s being so well behaved right now, don’t disparage her? She may have avoided being called to account for her behaviour in court, so far, but that doesn’t mean public opinion and social circles won’t make her pay.

If she hasn’t tried to ruin her current BO, it’s only because he doesn’t have anything she wants and is jealous of, or wants to prove she has power over. Good for him . Hope he keeps his head down.

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I would love to drop all discussion of LK, and just follow the further developments having to do with MB.

So do it. Stop responding to posts about LK. Stop jumping on other posters who do wish to discuss her.

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The owners and fellow boarders know her behavior from first hand experience, and they’ll use that first hand experience to assess the lunacy of what’s posted here.

I can’t speak on behalf of the facility owners but I can tell you that boarders and students do limit their interactions with her and give her a wide berth. And yes they do discuss her somewhat odd persona, peculiar affect, and distinctive behaviour during her lessons amongst themselves. I don’t know that they discuss the case, her history of harassing people, or her crazy posts here and on other social media channels, but I’d be shocked if it didn’t come up in conversation from time to time.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

I would love to drop all discussion of LK, and just follow the further developments having to do with MB.

So do it. Stop responding to posts about LK. Stop jumping on other posters who do wish to discuss her.

To clarify- I’d love it if Eggbutt and Sdel and others didn’t continue to make LK the center of discussion for the purpose of indulging in the pleasure of hate, and the discussion could return to the actual topics of the case that are still open. Back when LK was legitimately part of the story, I always thought you were using the Barisone case as a pretext to bash her. Since her role in the case is now finished, that fig leaf is gone, and it’s nakedly obvious why you continue to focus on her.

But if you (g) decide you want to keep LK bashing as the topic of the threads, I won’t promise to drop off unilaterally.

I understand that’s what you’d like, though.

[jvanrens]

@MorganSercu

Same as it ever was.

Now I have that song in my head…

Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (Official Video)