This news report from today mentions something very interesting … a statement by MB’s attorney”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹:
[B][I]“She is known as a grifter in the community,” Simms said. “These people would do anything they could to hurt Mr. Barisone, and that will come out.”
He surmised that Kanarek and Goodwin had conspired to take over the Barisone property, a sprawling, 53-acre farm[/I][/B]
I had actually thought the same thing, especially after reading all the things that have been mentioned about LK’s past behaviors (that are eerily similar to the events at MB’s property), prior to the actual shooting. When dealing with people like this I don’t think you can dismiss any possibility.
I kinda had too, after reading the stuff about the housing situations and how the fiance is apparently there now taking care of her horses, and didn’t get kicked out.
I believe an eviction notice IS a judge’s order to vacate the property. And the first news reports said that notices (signs) were on the property. So that didn’t seem to be working–it takes a lot to get law enforcement/government officials to physically remove someone from your property if they are not obeying an eviction notice. Although, I suspect an eviction notice is giving the squatter a deadline by which they must leave and this all went down fast enough that the deadline may have not expired so due process could move to the next stage.
What I wonder is if MB had been a woman would the police have counseled him to ask for a restraining order and would that have given more weight to someone going in and getting LK and her boyfriend off the property. He surely had enough evidence from her facebook posts, her priors and the the boyfriend’s recent criminal activity to get one. That and the there were children on the property in his care also being harassed and threatened.
I suspect that police really blew this one. Reports are that they’d been to the property everyday for a week. The information was out there and easy to find–didn’t they do the most basic investigation? This should have never happened and I can’t believe there wasn’t enough information for better intervention. The frustration by many law enforcement officials in a domestic violence situation is that they cannot make one of the partners leave the property. In this case if officials had done an investigation I think they may have had the ability to make that happen. Those facebook threats are probably criminal.
fyi: I’m not a legal peep, just opinionated.
And for those concerned about who might be reading this and be hurt from it? I highly doubt her family isn’t well aware of the problems here and aren’t aware of her past victims. If they aren’t they need to be. In all earnestness someone needs to get her some help. I truly hope they do.
Given that Barisone’s property is very close to her parent’s home and her clear desire to return to the area and be a NYC/NJ socialite like her sisters and mother, I do think that is very likely that she specifically selected him and his business for her purposes, though to what ultimate end, I could not say. It’s clear from her non-stop social media preening over the past few years in regards to her “buying things and going places while being successful”, that she has obtained a pile of money to play with, even though it’s origins are a mystery, and that has clearly emboldened her to do whatever she feels is necessary to establish an ongoing narrative where she is completely successful, in control and on-point in all things, and others are trying to hold her back, which is a clear sign of egomania or megalomania. Her past barns have received scathing business reviews from her and her fiance that more or less state “If you’d only done as I said, you could have been great, but you didn’t, so F*** YOU!”. I daresay that we may learn some very disturbing things about her past before this mess shows any signs of being resolved and I wouldn’t be surprised if she tries to go after Barisone in court and get his farm and business as retribution payment for being shot.
The reason why courts aren’t gender blind is because of centuries upon centuries of gender-based violence. I do believe that this woman was manipulative and cunning. Calling ICE on employees? How much more spiteful, callous and inhuman can you be? But I think everyone agrees that none of this deserves a shooting - irrespective of the gender of either party. And I for one would hope that courts are not gender-blind. The victims of most civil and domestic disputes are women.
A reminder the victim is in serious condition in the hospital, probably with a long road to recovery. You think the judge is going to order she be evicted??
And Barisone is a talker. I don’t know about substance abuse, but he is arrogant and has lots to say about every situation. A good example is his comment at the scene about having a good life. That will not help him.
I have this crazy feeling that all of this was some sort of set up that went wrong. I know that’s probably going to fall under the victim blaming category but the more I read, the more I feel like there was a power move on her end, like she was going to put him in his place by destroying his reputation and it all went south when she pushed to hard and he lost it.
I don’t know either of these people but I can certainly find way more dirt and smelly garbage in her social media footprints that I can on his.
It just looks like she pushed and pushed and prodded and poked until the bear bit back…
I’ll go ahead and apologize now for my insensitive comments and I’ll go ahead and post my notice that I do not in anyway condone violence nor do I feel anyone should ever be bodily harmed or injured.
And who on earth moves their girlfriend and her kids into their home when his wife is still living there? That’s almost psychological cruelty.
And thank heavens Vera DID divorce MB and establish her own business and is thus completely removed from this nightmare. I’ve never heard a single negative word about her. And I truly hope the horses have been removed to ensure their safety.
Oh my God. Barisone avoided the legal route to eviction (I’m a landlord, eviction can be done and if they refuse to leave, the police escort them out). Instead, he went up and shot the place. No words. He needs extensive jail time.
And the pink pink and black gun DID NOT belong to the victims! Take that nay sayers!
Meanwhile, while LK is in a coma, MB thought he was above the law and that he could start firing rounds in attempts to murder people. OVER A LANDLORD DISPUTE. This case just infuriates me as I know most involved in the situation.
The great promise and the unique offerings of the U.S. Constitution is Equality. And what people have forgotten is that that specifically refers to “equality under the law.” Social justice is specifically granting certain classes and groups legal advantages. It is the ability to grant those advantages capriciously and to the eventual detriment of the same people you are trying to help. It is in direct opposition to and a grave threat to “equality under the law” and the traditions of this country and the reasons for its founding and success. In my opinion it is the underlying reason for the current political unrest in this country.
When the great Frederick Douglas was asked what should be done about the emancipated former slaves he cried “do nothing for them, leave them alone! Every time government tries to help them they make things worse.” He said that all the emancipated slave wanted and needed was the same great tradition of equality under the law that had been bestowed to others. As a woman all I ask is the same–and for the same reasons.
250 years ago the concept of equality under the law was novel and earth shaking and the result was to create the most equitable, prosperous, generous and peaceful nation the earth has ever known. Does that make it perfect? No. But its a damn sight better than anywhere else.
There are those of us that think this is an extraordinary legacy, would like to keep it and are willing to fight for it. And there are those that don’t and aren’t. I am of the former.
LK would never be allowed on the Olympic team, as the long history of filed charges against her disqualifies her from attaining any position within the international competition programs. At best, she could become a Scene Queen, bouncing back and forth between NJ/NY, KY, and FL. More to the point, Barisone isn’t a shot-caller and wouldn’t have the means to do anything for her beyond achievement by association as her coach, which seems to be the outward premise for her going there and working for him.
I imagine the shooting victim is just hoping to be able to pet a horse someday, never mind riding. Reports say she is “communicating” but do not specify “talking.” Could be blinking, holding up a finger, etc.
