Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[BrendaJane]

@eggbutt

By the way, do you have a clue what an Eggbutt is?

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[eggbutt]

Watch a Total Lunar Eclipse (NASA Science Live)

[BrendaJane]

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[MHM]

@iberianfan

And I think it was purposeful and malignant.

That phrase really covers a lot of ground in this thread and in real life for that crowd.

I will say it’s much faster and easier to catch up on the thread if I just scroll past the couple of very partisan posters and the replies to their posts.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@DownYonder

Good point. Do we know for a fact if that bit of conversation occurred after the BI had arrived?

Who knows. We don’t even know if that bit of conversation really happened. Its only something LK SAYS was recorded and indicates a plot to kill her, and they were trying to decide who would kill her. That’s what she says. She could be completely lying (I know, what? Oh!) for all we know, and there was no recording, and no conversation, and no such words said. But if there was, there is no reason to think they were discussing a murder plot.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@jvanrens

Likely to drop off the eviction letter from their lawyer, when she was bitten by the “watchdog”.

That’s whwat I was thinking, whatever brought her into the house when she was bitten by the dog. I thought she had let the inspection guy into the house, and probably their apartment, because didn’t LK complain that she had no right to go into the house, which was curious, considering she was acting as MB’s agent, and it was MB’s house.

[Ambitious_Kate]

So does anyone know if there has been a complaint to USEF made yet about Lauren Kanarek? If not, does anyone know when one will be made?
Is this something any member can do?

[Sdel]

@Ambitious_Kate

So does anyone know if there has been a complaint to USEF made yet about Lauren Kanarek? If not, does anyone know when one will be made?
Is this something any member can do?

I don’t have any proof, but I don’t believe that the K crew would be here and on YouTube claiming “false reports” and fear mongering about consequences for MHG, MB, or anyone else, and trying to get us to PM them with real names (or personal details so they can “help us with our pain”) if there wasn’t something up.

[MHM]

@Sdel

and trying to get us to PM them with real names (or personal details so they can “help us with our pain”)

Just like they helped MB?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Sdel

I don’t have any proof, but I don’t believe that the K crew would be here and on YouTube claiming “false reports” and fear mongering about consequences for MHG, MB, or anyone else, and trying to get us to PM them with real names (or personal details so they can “help us with our pain”) if there wasn’t something up.

Oh, ok. I have some hole in info I’ve missed on these long threads, but I have seen most of that kind of response from them.

[Ambitious_Kate]

I have another question. How do they figure they are going to ruin MHG’s life and stuff, when she has nothing to do with them, her own farm, her own horses, and is by all counts improving, training and riding her horses at more and more competive levels? What is their point in saying things about her at all? She’s not involved with any of them. What’s the point?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@eggbutt

“Your life is the fruit of your own doing. You have no one to blame but yourself.”

Joseph Campbell

“Trouble with a liar is, he can’t remember what he said.”

Cormack McCarthy

[FitzE]

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

[eggbutt]

@Ambitious_Kate

@DownYonder

Good point. Do we know for a fact if that bit of conversation occurred after the BI had arrived?

Who knows. We don’t even know if that bit of conversation really happened. Its only something LK SAYS was recorded and indicates a plot to kill her, and they were trying to decide who would kill her. That’s what she says. She could be completely lying (I know, what? Oh!) for all we know, and there was no recording, and no conversation, and no such words said. But if there was, there is no reason to think they were discussing a murder plot.

I’m so confused. Why discuss bringing guns when there were shovels and manure forks aplenty?

[eggbutt]

@Ambitious_Kate

What’s the point?

Because they want to? When does needing a point matter to these people other than to hurt others?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@eggbutt

I’m so confused. Why discuss bringing guns when there were shovels and manure forks aplenty?

Precisely.

And, apparently, MB wasn’t so incapable of finding a way out of the problem that he wasn’t able to arrange to move her elsewhere. Wasn’t it testimony that he had worked with her father to find another place for her and her horses? And they were going to let her her know she had to leave (ED)? Seems to me that they had it all set up to have Daddio on the Patio and ED sort her out so she understood that she has a place to go, with her horses, and and needed to leave, here it is in writing, and if she didn’t there would be an eviction, so best get your butt in gear.

So why decide to “murder” her instead? Daddio on the Patio was going to get her out and on her way.

I highly doubt MB was planning murder when he had legal avenues lined up. But then comes the CPS, the inspection, and everyone had to be out of the dwellings, only to find out LK and company were languishing in the house still! With new high anxiety, he went up to the house to say, how can we sort this out, people, and took a gun to protect himself from the dog that bites. He wasn’t wrong about that. But, He got jumped, and beated in the head so badly and choked out that he has no memory of the whole things, and the horror of that whole event, aiee, and the dog may have even jumped first. But there’s no indication whatsoever that he intended to kill anybody.

[erinmeri]

@ekat

I know I’m new here, and I certainly wasn’t around back in Sept 2019. But I remembered reading LaLa posting something about MB just not knowing better because he doesn’t have kids. So I went searching for that. Obviously there have been delete-a-thons in the intervening time. And my ability to search this forum is not the greatest.

Also, LaLa admittedly lies on social media. But when people are wondering what LK may or may not have said to SS, perhaps they ought to review her own words.

I am probably being redundant, but… I wonder if CH and the others screeching that it was accusations of “neglect” and not “sexual abuse” that gave rise to the CPS visit have considered that LK’s own repeated accusations of perversion may have given rise to such theories about allegations of sexual abuse? The following statements from LK date back to September 2019, so seeds were sown early.

Let’s not forget when she explained her call with SS and said in same paragraph “Mb is a perv.”:

Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

Maybe you’re unaware of Safe Sports purpose. I was. They’re pretty much only interested in minors. They asked me questions. I told the exact truth. Not that I owe anyone an explanation. As I told SafeSport, I don’t believe mb MEANT to behave in the way he was behaving. He just didn’t know better Bc he doesn’t have kids. SafeSport had a different view. I also told them about the body shaming. Just ask ANY female who has ever been in full training there. Mb is a perv. Also, I NEVER called the fat…

The subsequent linking of dots between said call and CPS and her response, including a kinda sorta denial that she had anything to do with the CPS call (now proven in court to be related):

Barisone Pleads Not Guilty

In what way exactly does this “clear up CPS?” SafeSport made me aware they mostly deal with minors - making me aware. Still, aside from the constant body shaming- I’ve shared no information whatsoever of the allegations in the report. Only what I told them I saw & heard- none of which I shared with the BB. At least not in that post. Now, where is this CPS call I allegedly admitted to making? Apples. Oranges.

Her allegations about lecherous behavior:

Barisone Pleads Not Guilty

I just wanted to add here- you ARE right in a lot of ways. Judges have a type - not all- but plenty. When I mentioned “body shaming,” as one of the things I reported MB to SS for, it wasn’t a little “no big deal,” thing. He did this & he did it cruelly. For example, if 4 thin, long legged (bigger chested) girls were riding in the arena - but one or two more were short, overweight & not his taste of “pretty,” he would decide to make a whole speech about it. Personally, a coach telling studen…

Or when she alleged MB taught one of MHG’s children to untie bikini tops in pools:

Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

…wow. (worked on mobile data but my WiFi apparently doesn’t like that link) Posted on LK’s personal FB page: Hey! J.H & MH - isn’t it bad enough you’ve helped put your master in jail for a VERY long time? Guess not! Ok! You just lmk when you’ve had enough. I can take 3 bullets to the chest - despite the irreparable damages to my lungs & emotional stability. Scratch that. I think it says it all when you make friends with Susan Wachowich just so people believe your stories. Yeah. 🤣🤣 Doe…

Or when she said he impregnated a 19-year old and letched after a young MHG and other young women “I DID say that Michael told us as nauseam that he saw her at that YR competition & thought she was the most beautiful girl in the world & would’ve scored her 100%. He’s 20 years her senior. Checking out the very young riders as an old guy does set a precedent for future behavior. Then again, so does impregnating a 19 yr old while married.”

Barisone Pleads Not Guilty

Ummm… and I’m the one obsessed? (Belly laugh) Shes 35 or something now. When I was the equivalent of a YR - I was landing double axles. Now, if could land a single toe loop or not travel during a sit spin… I’d be delighted. Who gives a rats tail what anyone did 2 decades ago. Besides, (as per usual) you missed my point entirely. And again, separately, only MH would feel the need to point out a “great score,” she got once & add to it, “it wasn’t bc she was thin & beautiful.” I never EVER used …

And later… “His perverted acts which followed indeed had precedent set to these behaviors & he had zero problem bragging about them.”

Barisone Pleads Not Guilty

Again, here you are highlighting every aspect of MH’s life. That is either obsessive on your part or, self congratulatory on also your part (if you’re her.) I don’t care or know about her “life story.” The only reason their ages were brought up was to point out I feel it’s disgusting for a 35 yr old man to be assessing the “hotness,” or “not ness,” of 19 -22 yr olds at a Dressage competition. It does set a precedent. Idc if it were MH or Jill Doe, idk how you fail to see that. And yes, he t…

I am sure I could find others… but perhaps LK’s own words led some to believe - pre-trial - that such accusations played a central role in her SS complaint.

[Angela_Freda]

Fear, intimidation, harassment… Take your pick.

[Angela_Freda]

This scenario makes the most sense of most scenarios

[Angela_Freda]

Two things…

Any guy, engaged to someone, would say about their gf or fiance they thought she was beautiful when they saw her.
“Beautiful” is now pervy?

And second, I’ve watched several clinics of MBs now, with less than attractive, per general standards, riders. I’ve only heard him talk about the idea of fitness and that the rider is an athlete like the horse.

I’ve also heard people say he name drops and brags when yo my ear he’s crediting the teachers he’s had with the wisdom that he’s now sharing secondhand.

I think ones perspective or bias can hear the same comments very differently.

Considering her shaming and posting video of a young woman in a store, I’m going to guess any “body shaming” (loose term here, allowing for a skewed mind like LKs) MB might have done was approved of by LK.