@MorganSercu, just a small correction re: suboxone. There are MDs. particularly down south who will prescribe max doses of suboxone every month for years, a box at a time. I have a stepchild (SC) who was living in FL before moving up to us in MA. It became my job to dispense tapering doses every day til the final box was used up because no doctor in MA was going to prescribe that dose for any period of time. And yes left to their own devices SC would abuse it at the beginning of each prescription period or sell it on the street to get other drugs then be out of control at the end of the month. It was a tough go, but SC is no longer on that med.
Just reporting that boxes of suboxone can be available and can be abused.
Oh, I know it was done but the DEA has really cracked down on MDs who do so and pharmacists who go along with handing out large quantities of many controlled drugs. I hope NJ takes it as seriously as it has been in my home state in the past several years.
So sorry your family had to go through this particular struggle. I hope your SC is doing MUCH better now.
While I have great sympathy for her, the tragic lost of a child 20 years ago does not excuse her recent online behavior. If LK used that information in her online battle that is despicable. No argument there. Some of the thing GJ posted to me were pretty despicable too, especially concerning my husband that died of cancer. At that point I realized she was unbalanced and stopped engaging with her. I wish others had as well.
Does not begin to compare to what happen at Charlottesville, where there obviously a wrong side and a right side. I am just saying this is more muddled than you would want it to be and there are people using her and her tragedy for their own purposes. Not caring about what might be best for her. Just my opinion.
As I said in my previous post, I donât know anything about GJ other than what was posted here. However, I stand by my previous statement.
Anyone who would say so much as an unkind word to or about a grieving mother regarding that situation would have to be lower than a snake. Period. Full stop.
There were multiple declarations that they were never asked to leave made by LK, and that if they had been, of course sheâd have left. If anyone wantsâŚ.I can provide the quotes/screenshotsâŚ.
One final post RE GJâŚit has not been lost on me the number of posters ready to pounce with defense of LK saying she MUST be suffering from PTSD, so letâs cut her some slackâŚyet GJ suffered the most traumatic event a parent can suffer, then out of the blue she was attacked by a whacked out stranger spewing the most horrendous insults, and never once has anyone given GJ the benefit of possible PTSD in explaining her behavior.
Such gold-plated double standards are unacceptable!
This is what I remember too.
I think that thought was followed by her saying that the farm owners actually begged her to come back there and that she was allowed to stay there as long as she wanted to.
So different than what is now being said. Or maybe just an example of how real knowledge of what was going on is different than how LK passes along what happens.
The company behind the drug is known to be dirty and admitted to it, pleading guilty, here in Virginia, with multiple cases in other states yet to come. Suboxone is frequently found in drug busts in the NY Tri-state area, often obtained through fraudulent prescription writing and medical professionals who were incentivized by the pharma to ship out as much of it as possible, especially since cost reimbursements were made from state funds to cover prescriptions that were supposed to be legit.
Thank you.
I fully agree that LK goes very low with her online comments and arguments and I would never support such behavior. I donât understand why anyone would want to continue to engage when the conversation is so mean spirited.
On the Thatâs a Twist thread, in response to:
â Too bad it wasnât Wellington season when you were asked to leave the property the first time.
A lot of this could have been avoided (to say the least).â
And LK said:
â To be clear, MB never ever asked us to leave. Youâll notice in the 911 calls ⌠MB began by stating we were at the barn at 9pm. He claims we werenât supposed to be at the barn past 9pm. (We specifically, WERE supposed to be there then.) Heâs clearly fishing. Makes no mention of âpeople living in the house who werenât supposed to be there.â Bc⌠he knew that was lie. He couldâve had us evicted. Why didnât he? Or, HE couldâve waited until Wellington season to part ways. We were obviously leaving before that & he knew that. His actions (prior to the shooting) are NOT consistent with the actions of a person who âjust wanted us gone.â He will have plenty of time to explain those actions in court. He didnât want us gone from the property- He wanted us DEAD. Unfortunately, this indisputable evidence canât yet be sharedâ
i did answer it, actually. WE WERE NEVER ASKED TO LEAVE. Not formally. Not informally. Not at all. If we had been, Iâd have retained our family lawyer long before. You do realize I was at Gladstone showing with MB coaching me like 10 days prior, right? Whatever he was telling the cops, he wasnât telling us. So please, stop lying. I answered this question twice. This will be the last time.
mB wanted to get out of paying a big bill ⌠but, he wasnât prepared to evict us or even try. He was merely trying to prove to his gf (who threatened to leave him twice if he didnât make us leave) that he was âreally trying,â to do just that. I learned this later on. K? Question answered sufficiently?
The sidestepping the question by insisting lack of eviction papers means they werenât asked to leave:
â[La-LaPopRider]
[Sep '19]
A.) We we not âsquatting.â Nor were we EVER, at any point (and there are public records of this - or lack thereof at Washington twnshp pd) asked to leave. But cool story. We were just there today. Decided against staying only Bc of the trauma.
B.) I have zero convictions for cyber stalking OR assault. In 2003 (not that this explanation is owed to you- but everyone deserves a chance to save themselves from themselves) I was jumped by 7 girls at a bar. As I donât drink, I was holding a mini cranberry juice bottle. I defended myself. The judge obviously agreed. C.) Never charged in my life for âcyber stalking,â ever. D.) You think MBâs record is clean? Think again. My charges (and all acquittals- since anyone can get anyone arrested- but it must be proven in a court of law) WERE DROPPED.â
So, yes. Only one party here has a clean record. Itâs NOT MB. Get your facts straight.
[La-LaPopRider]
[Sep '19]
I wish everyone understood how MB operates. Over the years, I have threatened to leave. Mb has walked out on lessons. Pretty typical, actually when youâre training 4 horses and riding ALL day. Mb could act one way one minute- then totally opposite the next. Still, we all went to dinner (or ordered in) at days end & all was good. Every single news report has my friends who knew the real story - stating âI canât say more but the situation was very, very complex.â Idc what anyone says- there was no eviction notice. Nor a request that we leave. If there were, that country would have it! They donât. The situation was very, very complex. Very. 🤡ðŸÂÂźâÂââ˘âŹĂŻÂ¸Â
The MB wasnât really the owner so it doesnât count:
â[La-LaPopRider]
[Sep '19]
WTF makes you think the House was condemned? ðŸ¤â And wtf do you think called the Fire Marshal & Building Code Inspector ?? Sorry, but I wonât have my horses in a fire hazard. Mb was building illegal things and thatâs all you need to know. Our apartment was NOT condemned. The barn was as was their side of the house.
Was just there yesterday! So odd. STILL no eviction notice and a thousand apologies from the owner.
[La-LaPopRider]
[Sep '19]
of course itâs telling!!! Obviously, had MB told us to leave the property sooner, Iâd have retained my attorney sooner. That house isnât MBâs.
Next- we were interviewing other trainers way before the last week there. We have a home in NC! We were ONLY in NJ bc mb begged me to come & provided housing.â
Now, for a trip down logic laneâŚ.If as IM suggests that there was an agreed âget out dateâ. Wouldnât that in and of itself be proof that she was asked to leave? And all this happened before that dateâŚ.then maybe all the crap was about being mad they were the ones shown the door instead of MH.
Letâs revisit the building inspectors and fire marshals shall we?
â And wtf do you think called the Fire Marshal & Building Code Inspector ?? Sorry, but I wonât have my horses in a fire hazard. Mb was building illegal things and thatâs all you need to know.
I thought it was RG who was doing all the building/renovation work on the barns and house, to the tune of being owed 50K.
And there is more; including the LK telling us that the police told MB 9 times to file eviction papers when they responded to the 911 calls. These are just from the original thread. There are numerous other similar statements in most of the other threads as well. But do I believe that MB came out of the blue and said âget out?â No, it was probably, âIâm ending the training agreement (aka the âpapersâ) which was constructively âget outâ.